Republicans Taking Dishonesty To A Whole New Level



I hope that your readers read the entire article detailing the recent Gosar meeting with the Payson Tea Party because I believe that there is a real eye-opening lesson from that meeting. It is evident that Gosar has adopted the Jon Kyl method of addressing the American people.

You might remember when Jon Kyl spoke to the Senate and gave a scathing attack against Planned Parenthood. It was immediately apparent to informed listeners that he had given grossly incorrect statistics and he was challenged about his accusations. A representative from his office advised that his remarks “were not meant to be factual statements.” Interesting way to explain telling lies. (I don’t think this would have worked with my mother.)

So, first, Gosar told a tale of how the ambassador in Libya had been “tortured, sodomized and dragged through the streets” and his listeners reacted with expected shocked gasps. And then he followed this attack on Obama’s policies with the assertion that more American soldiers had died in the four years of Obama’s administration than had died during the entire Bush administration.

The only thing wrong with this is that the first story was completely unsubstantiated and supplied by a Muslim Web site that would have every reason to give out incorrect information. And the second story was very easily found to be false by making a five-minute check online.

Does Gosar have such low expectations of his listener’s intelligence to think that they would just believe anything that he chose to say?

Unfortunately, it seems that this cavalier attitude toward honesty seems to come from the top of the Republican ticket. When it was pointed out that Paul Ryan had made fast and loose with facts in his convention speech, a member of the Romney/Ryan group said that the campaign was not going to be directed by the “fact-checkers.” And, when misleading (or totally incorrect) ads against Obama have been pointed out in the media, the Republicans neither apologize or even take down the ads.

And, watching the Obama/ Romney debate, it was easy to see that many Romney statements did not even remotely match what he has said in the past. (This flip-flopping was often pointed out even by his Republican primary opponents.)

There has always been some campaign dishonesty (by both parties), but the current Republican Party has elevated it to an art form.

Wendy Trainor


John Lemon 4 years, 3 months ago

Ms. Trainor; I ask that you stop thniking in terms of "one equals all". If Mr. Gosar made a misstatement blame him, not all Republicans. The same is true for Democrats, Independents, or any other group. If I use your logic, I could blame any particular group, race, sex, religion, etc. , for the actions of one or a few individuals. This sort of logic leads to divisivness, prejudice and a closed mind.


Ted Paulk 4 years, 3 months ago

Wendy, I wrote a letter to the Roundup the same day asking if there is nothing these teabaggers won't use to further their "cause". To accuse these homophobic fanatics of sodomy is past ridiculous. Gosar moved to Prescott so he wouldn't have to run against Ann Kirkpatrick, who lost the last election because of lies pushed by these crazies. He knew he could not beat her this time. HE IS THE VOICE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IN GILA COUNTY, mr. lemon.


don evans 4 years, 3 months ago

"There has always been some campaign dishonesty (by both parties), but the current Republican Party has elevated it to an art form". The Democrats have been great mentors, especialy the last 4 years. It's worked for them.


ALLAN SIMS 4 years, 3 months ago

It is interesting how many liberals can see the mote in another’s eye and not the log in their own eye. Maybe some conservatives overstated the facts. Not proven in most cases, I think, but certainly easy to do. Let’s say that some retract or back up from what they said. Good for them. That shows some attempt to get it right. Is it not easy, in the heat of the moment, to overstate your case? I know that I’ve had to retract. That is why I do some background work before I say something. Even then, I wind up saying OOPS! once in awhile.

Now, this person can see what she believes to be lies, yet says nothing of the obvious ones of the President of the United States, the Secretary of State and other high ranking officials who purposely lied about Lybia to us, the ones they work for.

And, liberals are ever so willing to believe Biden’s “We didn’t know”? Presume they didn’t know, he puts Obama and himself in the shoes of Bush, whom they so vehemently abused for reporting WMD’s as a reason for going to war, when it was later determined that intelligence reports were concluded to be wrong. Yet, Biden seems OK with such incompetence, and most liberals give him a pass. It smacks of chronic lying, and reminds us of all the broken promises Obama has made.

Biden was a presidential hopeful in the primaries of 1987, when his plagiarizing of a British politician came to light. That prompted review of his prior speeches and writings that showed he’d plagiarized as far back as when he was in law school. Others he plagiarized included John F. Kennedy and Hubert H. Humphrey. This too is documented well all over the internet. Plagiarism is not only theft, it is lying, pretending that the great words you spout are your own. But, for that, he could have been President. His lying caught up with him.

So, now, our leaders don’t shine so brightly, and this person jumps at slips of the conservative tongue. Might that be an attempt (Conscious or otherwise) to prevent too close a scrutiny of their own? This article implies supposed lies to represent all Republicans, which is as wrong as for them to say all liberals are as damnable liars as Obama has proven himself to be.

We should speak of the issues, instead of lambasting. I fall short on that as do we all. And, I think the overstatement of facts by our politicians is part of the issues. So it should not be taboo to speak of them. But, it is when we classify all democrats as liars because their president and vice-president prove themselves so, that conservatives lower themselves to the level of the one that wrote this article.

When we do that, it becomes a case of whose face is blackest. (Not a racial slur. That’s an old saying that come from the days of kids playing in the coal pile, coming back into the schoolhouse with coal dust smeared all over them. I was one of them.)


Michael Alexander 4 years, 3 months ago

While men (and women) of good conscience may disagree about the vagaries of the Benghazi timeline, one thing is indisputable and, in my view, indefensible: On September 12th, 2012, the day after Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans were murdered, President Obama attended a fund-raising event in Las Vegas, Nevada. Log in their own eye, indeed.


Pat Johnson 4 years, 3 months ago

Mr. Paulk, The term "teabagger" is vulgar and offensive. Before you use a term like that, I suggest you research the meaning. I'm sure you can do better than that.


Bernice Winandy 4 years, 3 months ago

--It is wrong to give a definite withdrawal date from Afganistan. -- The troops should be withdrawn by the end of 2014.-- I do not believe in abortion all human life is sacred. -- I believe in abortion for rape, incest and the health of the mother.-- These opposing positions were stated by the same person who is now running for office. The USA does not need politicians who bounce all over the place and say whatever will get the present audience to vote for him/her. We need people in office who have the courage to stand up for what they believe in even if it is unpopular. Isn't that what the great leaders have done in the past? Isn/t that what we need now and in the future? I, for one, want someone who says what he/she believes and sticks to it UNLESS HE/SHE REALIZES THE POSITION WAS WRONG AND SAYS IN NO UNCERTAIN WORDS THAT HIS/HER PREVIOUS STAND WAS INCORRECT AND FULLY EXPLAINS WHY HIS/HER NEW STAND IS THE CORRECT ONE.


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