Christian School Dedication

Christian school dedication

Christian school dedication

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Parents, students and faculty turned out last week as the Payson Christian School rededicated Frontier Elementary School, which the private, religious school bought recently from the Payson Unified School District.

Principal Mrs. Fleegar and two students, Rachel Sutton and Megan Thomas, lead the first official Pledge of Allegiance at the school.

The Payson Christian School hopes to expand its operations and attract more students to the new site.

PUSD shuttered Frontier two years ago to save money in the face of declining enrollment, and then sold it earlier this year to Payson Christian School.

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Ronald Hamric 8 months, 2 weeks ago

Let's see if I have this right. Payson Unified put Frontier on the market, someone bought it at the negotiated price. And that equates to theft? You truly are challenged aren't you?

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robbin flowers 8 months, 2 weeks ago

Ronald, The sale was supposed to be for actual value, not negotiated value. THE ARIZONA STATE CONSTITUTION STATES: THE SALE MUST BE FOR ACTUAL VALUE. This property was not sold for actual value, it was sold for negotiated price. This is theft to the public tax paying citizens and to the public school system. This is why most of the world hates "Christians." Everyone outside of America knows that the law doesn't apply to "Christians," that is what the Bible says. The Bible says, Thou shall not steal. Saying the pledge of allegiance to the flag on that land, is a joke, you are saying it on ill gotten land. So, enjoy your school "Christians." You most definitely do not honor or worship the same Christ and God I do. That land is now vile. It is you that is morally challenged Ronald.

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Ronald Hamric 8 months, 2 weeks ago

Robin, You unfortunately are scripturally illiterate. I will pray for your enlightenment.

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Ronald Hamric 8 months, 2 weeks ago

" It is you that is morally challenged Ronald."

Pretty amazing coming from someone who supports infanticide Robin, that you would even imply you possess any shred of morality.

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robbin flowers 8 months, 1 week ago

"As Reverend Cornel West has noted, "the fundamentalist Christians want to be fundamental about everything, except 'love thy neighbor." When a stranger sojourns with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong. You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God. - Leviticus 19:33-34." "I will be a swift witness against... those who oppress the hired worker in his wages, the widow and the fatherless, against ... those who thrust aside the sojourner, and do not fear me, says the Lord of hosts. Malachi 3:5." Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God. - Matthew 19:24. When both Lazarus and a rich man dies, Lazarus ends up in heaven, while the rich man ends up in hell. When the rich man begs for water, Abraham says, "Child, remember that you in your lifetime received your good things, and Lazarus in like manner bad things; but now he is comforted here, and you are in anguish." Luke 19:25. The only thing a fundamentalist "Christian" dislike more than immigrants is poor people. Tea Party Congressman Stephen Fincher stated why he wants food stamps cut entirely, "The role of citizens, of Christians, of humanity is to take care of each other, but not for Washington to steal from those in the country and give to others in the country." The entire Tea Party movement is based on the idea that a huge portion of Americans are "takers" who suck the lifeblood out of the economy. The real takers are Wal-Mart and the Military Industrial Complex (to name a few.) But fundamentalists have the, as Nietzsche noted, the "ethic of the hangman." The poor are considered culpable so that they can be punished -- like today's cuts to food stamps or the public shaming of those on welfare or the fact that some Christians in town need a "special" school at the expense of all the "other" types of Chrisians. But, the Oil Industry, Multi-National Corps, and "Sweet Heart Deals to your buddy" are the ones who take the most tax money and are hailed as Right Wing Hero's.

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robbin flowers 8 months, 1 week ago

Continued: In Genesis, man is given stewardship of the Earth, God's creation. [Stewardship, implies protection. Man should exist in harmony with the earth, not work against it.] As is noted in Colossians 1:16-17: By him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities -- all things were created through him and for him. Jesus Christ once told his followers: No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money. - Luke 16:13. Increasingly, the religious right is trying to do exactly that, intertwining "Christianity" with unfettered capitalism -- with disastrous results for people and the environment. Thus, American life is increasingly dominated by Christians who reject the religious ethos, in favor of capitalist ethos. Conservative Evangelicals are not concerned with dwindling biodiversity, the destruction of ecosystem, rampant pollution, global warming, fair and equitable wages, health care, proper education for all, or poverty and the numerous other challenges we face. Rather they, with the business community, are concerned with the bottom line. The future is irrelevant (unless we're talking about government debt). Thus, the Biblical command to protect the environment is widely eschewed. You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' As a religious/political movement, fundamentalists have defined themselves as a party of opposition, rather than of love, grace and mercy. While past "Great Awakenings" have looked inward, seeing sin within the conflicted self, this new awakening looks outward, seeing sin in the wider culture. This is why the modern "Christianity" religious/political movement gravitates towards xenophobia, homophobia, sexism, etc. Fear, hate and disgust are its motivating factors. This pre-emptive "war by the Christian religion" on all other religions, produces a strong disgust toward Muslims, Women, and the Poor (which they create.)

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. - Galatians 3:28.

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robbin flowers 8 months, 1 week ago

Christ rarely concerned himself with sexual mores, he was far more concerned with fighting oppression. Fundamentalists want to keep women subservient, but Jesus won't let them. In Luke, Jesus is blessed by a priestess named Anna. He praises a woman who stands up to a judge and demands justice. Resurrection stories have women arriving first to Jesus' tomb. Jesus talks with a Samaritan woman at a well and praises Mary Magdalene for listening to his words (Luke 10:38-42). Jesus saw how oppression and oppressors consumed the world. He, always, sided with the oppressed. This kind of skewed "Christianity," like with the "Payson Christian School" is radically far removed from true Christianity. True Christianity offers us a far superior doctrine -- one of social justice, love and equality.

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H. Wm. Rhea III 8 months, 1 week ago

I harbor no ill will against the school. My big problem is the district selling it and claiming that Payson wasn't growing because the university initiative wasn't moving forward in their opinion. Then, a few months after the sale, the school board is wrong, the university is going forward and that means growth - lots of it, for Payson.

To me the school board was very short sighted. And if they need a bond or something in the future for another school or more space, I will be solidly against it and will bring this sale up, over and over again.

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Ronald Hamric 8 months, 1 week ago

Ah. It becomes very clear now Robin. You have strong, visceral disagreement with Evangelical Christians as a group. How's that "log" in your eye look as you focus on the speck in theirs? So it wasn't about the FACT that the Payson Unified School District SOLD that property at all, it is who they sold it to. Now I begin to understand your convoluted thought process that make that purchase "Theft at its finest." Had that school been purchased by some secular organization, likely we never would have heard a whimper from Ms. Flowers.

Mr. Rhea,

I think Payson Unified was short sighted in the sale of that property as well. No sooner had the transaction been completed than we began hearing about lack of classroom availability in the short term as well as projections into the future. Instead of buyer's remorse, it appears there will be Seller's remorse. I sense the costs to replace that property when the need becomes critical will far exceed what it would have costs to retain it on the books and shuttered.

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robbin flowers 8 months, 1 week ago

Ronld, I have a bone indeed, and I have lot's of them. I do not want a one world state with humans as freight. I appreciate that all individuals are sovereign born, and I predicate my believes based on that. I believe that elected officials are designated to serve in the best interest of everybody (not just their buddy), and should emulate and liberate as such. I believe that our "officials" designate the children's fate. I am tired of "officials" who say they tell the "truth" and it is a manipulative lie, and I am irate. I am tired of people suffocating on their own hate. I am tired of this broken crate legal system. Are we are just to late? Or, maybe we can all rotate, gravitate, deviate, get a better rate, motivate and recreate our atomic fate, or maybe it will just be US continuing to annihilate.

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Ronald Hamric 8 months, 1 week ago

Robin, Look, we are not in charge. He is! Certainly proud mankind thinks everything revolves around their greatness and abilities. That man has tried to be master of his own destiny and ignore the futility of it all, is evident. God didn't screw up the world, man using his free will did. It's easy to point out the problems and even provide some possible solutions, but since you are a reader of the Bible, then you know how it is all going to play out anyway. Romans 1:21 For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22: Professing to be wise, they became fools.

If you really study God's word, then there are no surprises in what we are witnessing. Personally, I strive (usually fail) to do white Jesus admonished Peter to do when Peter asked Christ what He had in store for John ie 'What business is it of yours what I have for him, you Peter, follow me". In other words, we needn't worry about how others are walking in their faith, we have enough trouble keeping ourselves where we need to be. Anyone who says they do not sin, there is no truth in them, for all sin and fall short of the glory of God.

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Kim Chittick 8 months ago

The bottom line is that the Payson School Board is who made the decision to sell, as well as the one who made the decision to accept the offer put forth by Payson Christian School. The blame lies not with Payson Christian School, but with the short-sighted Payson School Board. It sounds to me as though Ms. Flowers thinks that Payson Christian School is at fault for offering a lower price than that which was being asked. HELLOOO!! Good business sense dictates that one ALWAYS offers a price lower than that which is being asked. Simply because the powers that be who oversee Payson Christian School are Christian does not mean that they are stupid, or short-sighted, or irresponsible with their money. I am completely perplexed as to the motivation of the Payson School Board. However, regardless of Ms. Flower's entirely unreasonable anger at Payson Christian School and Christians in general, the fault lies not with Payson Christian School, nor with Christians, but with Payson School Board. They all need to be asked to step down. They are not good custodians of that which was entrusted to them.

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robbin flowers 8 months ago

Kim, The whole situation from all angles is corrupt. It appears that the school board meeting behind closed doors (three times, because they knew it was wrong) and making up a "magic" number was for the explicit purpose of selling that school to the "Christian" school, for that price. We have open meeting laws in place for a reason. The "Christian" school knew before they signed the paperwork that this was the wrong thing to do as far as the public interest is concerned, and they chose to do it anyway. Because "it" was a good deal for them. This is and was a bad deal for the poor "Christians" in town, that was not their concern. It appears as though the word "Christian" has been hijacked.

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robbin flowers 8 months ago

Kim, I am not angry about this situation but I am deeply saddened. The complete disrespect and disregard for the public interest is a treachery to our whole county, state and country. Not to mention the adult role modeling that went on in this situation involving our children. This is not a good way to teach citizenship. Do they even teach that in school anymore? If so, this would be a good case study for the students to reflect upon. They could start with the State of Arizona Constitution (we used to have a state constitution,) and they could talk about how our ELDERS set those laws into place to protect us from corruption. One of those laws specifically states that AZ Public Property MUST be sold at "actual value." Arizona was one of the last states to join the US, so our elders had a lot of experience to base the AZ laws on. Then they could discuss why Arizona has Open Meeting Laws, to prevent corruption. Then they could read the Meeting Minutes of the Board when they were making the decision to sell this school for "9.99 ninety nine." These are still public record, and a very interesting read, if I don't say so myself. Then they could learn about what the actual intent of the "appraisal" in this situation is about. Then the students could all learn what in really means to be a public servant, and how it is cool and now legal to manipulate the rules, laws, and your public duties, to meet your and your buddies interests and how the "get rich quick" schemes work.

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H. Wm. Rhea III 8 months ago

Robin is correct about this situation. The Payson School Board dealt deceitfully with the patrons by violating state laws on open meetings. Then they violate state laws on appraisals and sell the Frontier Elementary School for a mere fraction of what it is worth. And who foots the bill for that loss and a new bond in the future for a new school that we suddenly will have need of, since our enrollment jumped up? That’s right - the rest of us.

Oh, Robin kindly forgot to mention above about who is really going to profit. You see, if the Christian school fails, then the new owners are sitting upon many more millions of dollars of valuable real estate than they actually paid for. What a good business deal, huh?

They, the School Board and the Payson Christian School buyers, knew what they were doing was WRONG and did it anyway. How is that being a good Christian? Better start to prepare for your next abode - a place hotter than anywhere in Arizona!

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Ronald Hamric 7 months, 4 weeks ago

Mr. Rhea, I suspect the next time you go in to purchase an automobile, you will not subject yourself to the "wrong" of negotiating a price and simply pay manufacturer's suggested retail price. Right?

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