Old Men Should Not Decide A Woman’S Rights



I cannot understand the logic of having a group of mostly old, mostly white, mostly well-to-do and mostly males having the power to tell a group of mostly young, mostly racially diverse, mostly poor to middle class and exclusively females what they must do with their decisions on their health and family planning. And unfortunately, this particular group of men also seem to be completely ignorant of even the physiology of reproduction much less being able to understand the psychological issues involved. They have no way of even imagining facing the results of a pregnancy caused by rape or incest or having their very lives endangered by a problematic pregnancy. This is something that could never happen to them.

The truly maddening thing is that abortion is something that both parties really agree upon, and that is to somehow address and reduce abortions. However, Democrats like to address the cause of unwanted pregnancies — therefore they advocate for sex education, free family planning and birth control, prenatal care, adequate health services for women of all income levels, childhood nutritional programs, food stamps and other programs that assist children and their families as they grow. In their efforts to supply these services they encourage funding for organizations like Planned Parenthood.

On the other hand, most Republicans tend to only focus on the result of an unwanted pregnancy and to dictate what the woman is allowed to do, not based upon the very personal circumstances that each woman faces, but upon what their governing party has decided is right. And, as we see in many Muslim countries where the governing party determines what is right or wrong, it is usually women’s rights that suffer the most.

And it seems to be counter-productive when the GOP complains about the “takers” and demonize a woman who is unable to provide for her family without government help by saying “You shouldn’t have children if you can’t support them.” Every woman that considers an abortion is in essence saying that she does not feel that she is in a position to support a child, whether it is because of financial, psychological, physical or other reasons. Yet the GOP makes it harder, if not impossible, for her to have any other option but to have that child.

And the saddest part of all this is that these laws will not end abortions — they will only end safe and affordable abortions. There were always abortions, long before Roe v. Wade. Even ancient tribes, before there were any moral or religious elements, had an understanding of the inherent cruelty of bringing a child into the world without someone able and prepared to love and care for them.

Wendy Trainor


don evans 3 years, 7 months ago

What is your problem with white males anyway? You and a few others on this blog seem to have a common thread in making degrading context comments about them. I say they are racist, hate comments. It was mostly seasoned white males that, built, shed their blood and personal fortunes that founded this country. You know, the one that provides the quality of life you enjoy. How many baby momma's have you personally financially supported? That's what I thought. So don't expect me and the American taxpayers to pay for their individual poor decisions. So called planned parenthood is an abortion mill. That's their profit motive and how they make their money, along with government funding. May I suggest if a baby momma avails herself of a government funded abortion, or takes welfare benefits to provide for a child's birth and future care, mandatory sterilization is not an unreasonable requirement so that her future careless decisions don't further cost the rest of us. The baby daddy's should be identified and suffer the same consequences. Like the clown in the news that fathered 22 children with 14 different baby mommas. He doesn't pay a dime towards their care. But he get's his Govt. check. So much for your descriptive group of women making informed family planning decisions.


kate moore 3 years, 7 months ago

I don't have a problem with all white males. My white male husband and I, however, both have a problem with the attitude that women should relax and enjoy everything white males have given us and just keep quiet. People of all colors, ethnicities, and religions have built a society that we all enjoy and sometimes criticize---including white males---and have done so while supporting babies and their mothers. The attitude that we should all just be grateful to the white males is disgusting, to all people of both genders. The attitude that we should not criticize white males who take positions we find to be objectionable is the antithesis of what this country is supposed to stand for. Only weak men are threatened by strong women.


Pat Randall 3 years, 7 months ago

Abortion has turned into birth control. Not to save a mothers life or because of rape. There are many ways of birth control besides having a baby murdered. First of all, any one hear the word NO? Anytime a woman has an abortion if not to save her life, she should be sterlized at the same time. Also the father should be named and the same thing done to him. Any so called dr. or whatever that performs an illegal abortion should be put to death.


Ted Paulk 3 years, 7 months ago

Old, old views from another day. Abortion is LEGAL and it helps women live their lives fully.


don evans 3 years, 7 months ago

Your straw argument demeaning comment that we all should be grateful to the white male demonstrates your obvious bigotry. Also, I never said that white males should not be criticized for their positions, that's your added invective. As for strong women, honey, my wife went to College University starting at age 50 and obtained her Masters Degree in Education. Graduated Magna Cum Laude by the way. I fully supported her efforts both in spirit and financially. I am very proud of her and her past achievement as a Vice President of a Major Bank. No easy task in the real world, sweety. She earned it all, no government grants, handouts, or affirmative action quota promotions. So sugar, keep paying those ever increasing taxes so the taker baby momma's and daddy's can get their government checks, big flat screen TV's, and free Obama cell phones. No responsibility, just party on and someone else will pay for it all. You will diversity yourself out of existence.......


Patricia Johnson 3 years, 7 months ago

Mr. Evans: Addressing a woman who you don't know as "honey", "sweety" or "sugar" is......well, the nice way to put it is "creepy".


Meria Heller 3 years, 7 months ago

Very well written. Planned Parenthood does a lot more than abortions, which only account for 3% of what they do. Birth control and sex education is urgent and this abortion battle was settled in 1973. Why must anyone dictate what another does with their own body? Less governing over us, start governing the NSA.


don evans 3 years, 7 months ago

Intentional Murder of a human being is murder. No matter how old they are. Mothers life aside, it cannot be justified.


Ronald Hamric 3 years, 7 months ago

I have absolutely no issue with how a woman deals with her "reproductive rights" as long as it doesn't include the murder of an innocent child that had no say in it's being conceived.

"Why must anyone dictate what another does with their own body?" Boy am I in favor of that position. Let's do away with mandatory seatbelt and helmet laws, airbags, etc. After all "it is my body". Straw argument! You can do anything you want with your body, just not that of the child you created within by your irresponsible actions. And no, that is not all inclusive. As with most delicate issues in life, there are a few exceptions. Very few.


michele breen simmons 3 years, 7 months ago

Before I moved to Payson, I was active as a certified Post-abortion Counselor...yes post. Women, and sometimes their partners who have to make this decision don't do so lightly. There is much guilt and self condemnation fueled by these type of debates. I am absolutely pro-life and absolutely pro-choice...and I don't see that as contradictory.

Until one looks in the eyes of these scared and confused individuals and is able to offer sincere words of encouragement, hope, and intelligent options....then one should surely not judge. For those of you reading this who have made the painful decision to have an abortion, (I know you're out there), Post-abortion Syndrome is very real, and has a delayed response...sometimes 10-15years after the fact. Please reach out for help.....you are forgiven and you can forgive yourself.

One out of three individuals are affected by abortion - it is often a dirty, nasty secret, hidden for years in families. Mothers, Sisters, even Grandmothers feel they can't talk to their own Spouses or siblings....and after reading so many of these comments, can you understand why?


Ronald Hamric 3 years, 7 months ago

Ms. Simmons, I know first hand about the devastation brought about by abortion. One of the reasons I am so adamantly against "abortion on demand", there was an "un-authorized" abortion in my very own family. An adolescent simply went to a "Free Clinic" and without so much as a consultation with the parents, performed the act. I will go to my grave wondering what kind of person might have grown up had it been given the opportunity at life.

How is it that we can find so much sympathy for people brought to this tragic circumstance and yet excuse their personal irresponsibility for being reckless with their reproductive abilities? And I simply will not accept "well it's just a natural, impulsive, human hormonal response to have un-protected sex". In this age of birth control pills, morning after pills, and free condums at any school, where were their heads? When the result of that lapse in personal responsibility ends in the murder of an unborn, then you will have to excuse me if I simply come down on the side of the most innocent, fragile, and defenseless in this case, and have little sympathy for the ones who will simply carry on with their lives and possibly repeat ad infinitum, that same reckless conduct. The unborn had no choice as to it's conception! The two who conceived it, did!

We have a very stiff penalty for the wanton, premeditated taking of a human life in this country, and it is often played out in our prisons on death row. Even careless acts that cause the death of another is often tried as felony manslaughter. But for abortion, we simply accept similar conduct as "a woman's right to choose". Pardon me if I notice a small amount of dichotomy in that view. The end result is it "dummies down" the value we used to place on every human life.


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