Hate-Filled Letters

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Editor:

If I were a non-resident considering moving to the Payson area to buy a home and/or to buy or to establish a new business, and if I had been reading all the bile and hate-filled letters you selected for publication in the Roundup over the previous months, I think that I would conclude that the Payson area is a vile and slimy cauldron containing a huge nest of twisting, hissing, spitting and snapping pit vipers.

Otis Trimble

Comments

robbin flowers 11 months, 2 weeks ago

Otis, That is what free speech looks like, a big complicated mess of gumbo. Should we all just think the same way and pray to Allah? I am quite frankly impressed that this is "allowed" to happen.

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Ted Paulk 11 months, 2 weeks ago

Free speech does not mean you can LIE and be published! Obama is NOT a muslim. Democrats are NOT communist thugs. I wrote a similar letter to the editor last week; still not publishied, asking if you were on the Board Of Regents why would you even consider bringing an institution of higher learning to a town where the local paper continues to publish such BS. YOU SHOULD NOT PUBLISH LIES! Opinions pulled out of Renecks butts are NOT FACTS.

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robbin flowers 11 months, 2 weeks ago

Ted, You sound very wise. I agree with you. Just one question, what is a redneck? cuz' I might be one.

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Donald Cline 11 months, 2 weeks ago

No, unsupported opinions are not facts, Ted, but opinions supported by facts have considerable merit. I don't know if Barry Soetoro (alias Obama) is a Muslim or not, but he certainly kowtows to Muslims, and that's a proven fact. Not all Democrats are communist thugs, but a significant number of them are members of the "Progressive Caucus," and "Progressive" is the label communists (Marxists) adopted when they discovered the word "communist" wasn't getting their agenda advanced as fast as they like. Indeed, the Communist Party USA has endorsed Soetoro (alias Obama) for the Presidency both of his illegally usurped terms. So, the question now is: "Are you ignorant? Or are you fully aware of the above, and hope we aren't?" If the former, what you say is irrelevant. If the latter, you are either a Marxist apparatchnik or one of those Valdimir Lenin described as "useful idiots."

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robbin flowers 11 months, 1 week ago

Dearest Ted, and/or anybody who can see. I mean you no disrespect. I am a true red neck, I am in alignment with that, as it is my nature. But unless you are a very, very, very educated, and I reiterate a very educated scholar, who is also true, the posts will be difficult to understand at best and may appear as a bunch of crazy gumbo crap to most. But I assure you the post are truth and the details are in the kitchen. One of the amazing things about living behind a red neck vail, is that the vail repulses hatred, so the only people who can stand me are also true. Other peoples hatred doesn't bother me because that is on them, it is quite literally impossible to insult me. Behind my red neck vail, I live in paradise. The cool thing about paradise, is that it gives me freedom, and a silver string line tap into infinite knowledge. Now, Arizona, the state that I am the property of, molded me this way. One of the funfest things about being a red neck is playing poker. I love being around that round table with my true friends, and we share information all the time. One of my amazing friends told me that you are what you know. So, I still have some respect for you, why don't you show me some. You will probably need reference material and a round table of your own to understand this post. I started blogging because I liked Pat and Toms coolness and openness, so, they inspired me to take a stab at it.

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Travis Livengood 10 months, 4 weeks ago

Your lack of respect for people of differing opinions astounds me.

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Dan Haapala 11 months, 2 weeks ago

Ted, I am apalled at your response. You see, Obama is a Muslim, Democrats on the far left are Communist thugs and this is the perfect place for an institution of higher learning. You see the aforementioned words are examples of free speach. It doesn't matter if we agree or disagree with them, in this country we have the right to say what we want when it comes to politics. No we can't yell fire in a crowded theater, but unlike the powers that would have us cow tow to political correctness, we have the right to hate, we shouldn't but we do. We have the right to say any word, slang or otherwise, that helps us express our point. And even though the Congress has said we can't say harmful things when it is challenged and it will be challenged you'll find the Constitution is on my side. I can publish a lie. If I defame someone I am liable to be sued. But first you must prove it's a lie.By the way all my opinions are based on fact and I've worked my Butt off ( I have no longer a butt) to prove it.

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Donald Cline 11 months, 2 weeks ago

Ted is probably not aware, and probably doesn't care, that one point you brought up is one of those features that makes America "exceptional" in spite of people like Ted Paulk: He might be surprised to learn -- if he cares at all -- that America is the only nation in the world in which speaking or publishing the truth about a matter the public has a right to know is a bar to prosecution for libel. In every other nation, publishing proof that a politician is on the take, for example, might get him fired and/or prosecuted, but he can sue you for libel and win. And then you wind up paying his legal costs and unemployment benefits. There are quite a few things like that, including free speech, that people like Ted Paulk don't appreciate: It gets in the way of their agenda, don'tcha know?

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robbin flowers 11 months, 2 weeks ago

Donald, You really got me thinking (it might surprise Tom to know that red necks could do that.) But, I read a regent article that lead me to the conclusion that the religious indoctrination invasion has already occurred in this town, duh. I didn't know that there was an equivalent of a Muslim IMAM in Christianity, called a "Christian IMAM." After reading the regent soap box article, I realized that the problem with the public schools in Payson is that they are immune from the clutches of this type of IMAM indoctrination. (I do not know anybody involved one way or the other in this situation, I am a neutral witness.)

Nobody has "control" over the public schools in Payson except the PUSD Board, not even the governor. The parents of the children have control over their religion and I guess that, Tom, won't tolerate that. Besides upward up 70% of the public school children in this town are poor, or red necks, or still free thinkers (AKA chump.)

Now, I might be wrong, but it does appear to my limited thinkn' abilities that the school take over plot has been in the works for a while. It is quite an ingenious trend in this state and it is legal once the deal is done. Wright or Wrong, Fair or Not, is absolutely of no consequence.

It appears to me, that the tax payers were soaked for a public school improvement ($700,000 bucks) at FES, so it could be closed down just long enough to prepare a deal to basically give FES it to a private school. I don't have a problem, at all, with some special group of Privileged Christians purchasing Frontier Elementary School for Actual Value. Apparently, privileged Christians have more value that poor ones, I think that is called hypocrisy. Which is the underpinning moral contaminant of this town.

I always read how this town doesn't like hand outs. But what is meant by that, is that "hand outs" are OK in this town, as long as its to the already advantaged. 100 kids verses 2000 kids. Didn't this same kind of thing happen on the Titanic? Only the people on the top got to get in the boat. They could have saved more people, but those "other" people didn't have fancy enough clothes to be of any value.

Mr. Evans stated, "After all, look how much money the taxpayers and school district lost for us on this debacle." Is this town going to sit back and just watch them blunder more money? This IS EXACTLY what will cause more public expenditure, in so many ways you can't even imaging! Perhaps that's the whole idea to begin with, to further exploit the poor, so they become so broken that the Christian IMAM can rain supreme.

Mr. Evans also stated, "Just another example of those who runs government schools these days." The Payson Unified School District Runs The School in Payson, not even the Governor of Arizona has Jurisdiction over locally elected officials. Look in the mirror, Obama or the Feds didn't do it this time. Maybe that BS is just another smoke screen after all.

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robbin flowers 11 months, 2 weeks ago

Oh, my god, I made a huge mistake in the above post. I am very, very, very sorry. When I typed "Tom", I meant "Ted" (Paulk.) What can I do to fix it. Tom, I am totally embarrassed and humiliated for that blunder. I am really, really, truly, very, sorry. OMG what a difference two little letters can make. Please, forgive me. Editor, I beg you for the opportunity to change those 2 little letters, or is this a situation that once its done, its done.

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robbin flowers 11 months, 2 weeks ago

THIS NEXT 2 POSTS ARE ACTUALLY WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON THAT PREVIOUS AND AGGREGIOUSLY ERRONIOUS BLOG. There were to many characters to fit. Again. I am very, very, very sorry for the MANY mistakes in that past blog. (You might be a red neck if you don't double and triple check, damn sorry!)

Donald, You really got me thinking (it might surprise "Ted" to know that red necks could do that.) But, I read a article that lead me to the conclusion that the religious indoctrination invasion has already occurred in this town, duh. I didn't know that there was an equivalent of a Muslim IMAM in Christianity, called a "Christian IMAM." After reading the soap box article, I realized that the problem with the public schools in Payson is that they are immune from the clutches of this type of indoctrination in those buildings only. (I do not know anybody involved one way or the other in this situation, I am a neutral witness.) Continue to next

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robbin flowers 11 months, 2 weeks ago

Continued, Nobody has "control" over the public schools in Payson except the PUSD Board, not even the governor. The parents of the children have control over their religion and I guess that, Ted, can't tolerate the common town people being "free from" his religious beliefs IN THOSE BUILDINGs. Upward of 70% of the public school children in this town are poor Christian folk, or red necks. And, the PUSD Board members, words, deeds and actions, give me the impression that, they think the economically disadvantaged (which the town itself creates via greedy corporations) and red necks are just chumps, - and they are not people worthy of respect, dignity, opportunity or consideration. Now, I might be wrong, but it does give me the impression in my limited thinkn' abilities that the school - take over plot, has been in the works for a while. It is quite an ingenious trend in this state and it is legal once the deal is done. Wright or Wrong, Fair or Not, is absolutely of no consequence. Anyway, it appears to me, that the tax payers were soaked for a public school improvement ($700,000 bucks) at FES, so it could be closed down just long enough to prepare a deal to basically give FES it to a private school. I don't have a problem, at all, with some special group of Privileged Christians purchasing Frontier Elementary School for Actual Value. Apparently, privileged Christians have more value that poor ones, I think that is called hypocrisy. Which is the true moral contamination in this town (and world.) I always read how this town doesn't like hand outs. But what is meant by that, is that "hand outs" are OK in this town, as long as its to the already advantaged. 100 kids verses 2000 kids. Didn't this same kind of thing happen on the Titanic? Only the people on the top of the ship got to get in the rescue boats. "They" could have saved more people, but those "other" people didn't have fancy enough clothes to be of any value.

Mr. Evans stated, "After all, look how much money the taxpayers and school district lost for us on this debacle." Is this town going to sit back and just watch them blunder more money? This IS EXACTLY what will cause more public expenditure, in so many ways you can't even imaging! Perhaps that's the whole idea to begin with, to further exploit the poor, so they become so broken that the Christian / Muslim IMAM can rain supreme. (If this towns people don't intervene in this situation, their taxes will go up, and it will be nobody's fault but their own, the public school will further degrade and jails will be even more crowded.) Then What? IS IT EVEN POSSIBLE TO STOP THE VICIOUS CYCLE OF CORRUPTION?

Payson, l look in the mirror, Obama or the Feds didn't do it this time. (Maybe that BS is just another smoke screen after all.) These misaligned leaders, are to busy looking at the thorn in their constituents eye to notice the log in their own.

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jeff durbin 11 months, 2 weeks ago

Dear Otis, All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. That small amount of scripture that the Roundup publishes may answer …

The Four Difficult Life Questions

  1. Who am I?

  2. Where did I come from or how did I get here?

  3. What is my purpose?

  4. Where am I going?

The problem is not scripture in the Roundup but a void in your life, possibly a harden heart.

Jesus begins the relationship by touching your heart. If you recognize Him knocking on your heart, open the door and let Him in. Simply say “Save me Lord Jesus” and follow Him the rest of your life.

Jeff Durbin

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robbin flowers 11 months, 1 week ago

Jeff, The interesting thing about America is that there is so many different religions. Its because GOD effects us all differently. Jesus is the church of unconditional love, no church is better than the next. It is only what is in your heart that matters. Now, to me the sacred ground of religious neutrality in a public school building in quite an amazing thing, everybody is just free to be. If all the Church's would just do there works everywhere else and stop fighting about control of GOD in that type of public school building, we would all just be OK. Does this sound like Israel to you?

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