Minority Is Dictating To Majority



I am in absolute agreement with Mr. Liesener’s letter, in the May 3 edition, regarding the return to a faith-based life in the United States.

I have six children who have been told that the United States was formed as a Christian nation, and yet, the actions of the populace often show that it isn’t a Christian nation. There is no prayer in the schools ... oh yes, they will provide a moment of silence, but what does that really mean to the young people?

When I went to school, we had a flag in every classroom (or in a main courtyard) and every morning we would face the flag, say the pledge of allegiance, and then a prayer.

Patriotism and Christianity was instilled in us at school, as well as at home.

The school libraries have plenty of books about vampires, witches, warlocks and Roman/Greek gods, but how many Christian based books can be found in comparison?

Television and movies show that it is OK to be disrespectful to authority, have sex out of wedlock, etc. This only aids in the breakdown of moral principles, furthering the lack of focus on Christ.

When did this nation become a country where the minority dictates for the majority (77 percent consider themselves Christians). Christians have been expected to accept others’ beliefs, but there is little or no tolerance of others to respect Christian beliefs.

Mr. Liesener is correct ... we need to get back to the moral basics, pray, and give God the glory that is due!

Lenore M. White


Dan Haapala 2 years, 9 months ago

Why do we allow the Federal Government, through the Department of Education, to say and control what should be taught in schools and how we should behave? The answer is because education has been bought and paid for by the progressives who have a very different view of what we should know and do. The power of the Federal dollar is such that our State has created laws to make sure that we keeping getting those dollars regardless of what it costs us and what the results are. Those dollars, combined with our taxes, support the States Department of Education which makes rules and determines what the education of our youth will be and then they send out what's left of the money to the local County department of Education which disperses it to the School Districts which use what's left to build buildings, pay utilities and maintenance, employe educators and buy educational material to distribute to the students. They further require the students to attend and take tests and pass them. This requires some research that needs to be done, I'll try but.... If the amount of money that taxpayers, in Payson Unified School District 10, was allowed to remain here in the District, both federal and state and local, how much do you think that would be? The next obvious question is how much does education cost in PUSD 10? Then the hard one, Are our children learning what WE want them to learn or what the Government wants them to learn? Those who have knowledge of the truth will be free, those indocrinated in the rules of governing will be slaves.


Donald Cline 2 years, 9 months ago

Without detracting in the slightest from the value of the comments from both Ms White and Mr. Haapala, and without getting long-winded about the orchestrated subversive efforts by certain political ideologies in creating the amoral environment in which we currently find ourselves for the purpose of destroying the first, only, and perhaps last nation on Earth founded upon principles of liberty and individual sovereignty, I am writing now merely to point out the following fact:

There is no return. No genie has ever gone back into the bottle. We will each have to find and pursue a moral, honest path of personal integrity, respecting the right of all others to find their own, and it will not be based upon autocratic definitions of what constitutes "sin" and "grace" handed down by mystical con-men using religion as their personal weapon of power.

At least, it will not be until the Second Bolshevik Revolution, in preparation since the War of 1812 fizzled out, goes hot. Then your concerns will be rendered moot, because everyone will be praying and seeking His face.


Dan Haapala 2 years, 9 months ago

Mr. Cline I truly love your eloquence but offer this; "...There is no return. No genie has ever gone back into the bottle."... What about the 18th ammendment?


Donald Cline 2 years, 8 months ago

It proves my point. It attempted to put the genie back in the bottle, and it failed with disastrous consequences. "Speak-Easy's" and white lightening laced with battery acid for the zing was the result, and a powerful criminal class rose up to protect its merchandising, which taught government how to racketeer, and which caused the illegal, unconstitutional National Firearm's Act of 1934 to be passed depriving us all of our right to a particular class of firearms. It was so disastrous it was repealed, too late, by the 21st Amendment.


Robbin Flowers 2 years, 8 months ago

Who controls Payson? The people who live here.
Who controls what goes on in their own house? The people who live there.


Donald Cline 2 years, 8 months ago

Obviously you have never heard of the (illegal, unconstitutional) Environmental Protection Agency, and a few dozen other federal and State agencies who legally control under color of law what Payson does or does not do, not to mention planning commissions, zoning ordinances, and other bureaucracies who tell you what you may or may not do with your own property. Are you aware, for example, that people have been prosecuted for holding neighborhood prayer meetings in their own homes, or for posting anti-Marxism signs on their own property within view of a highway, etc., etc.? (Thankfully not here, but it has happened elsewhere in our "free" country, and there is no reason it can't happen here if we let it -- and we won't prevent it by making assumptions about being in charge of our own city or property.)


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