School Board Invocation Evokes Equivocation



School board member Shirley Dye

During a routine vote to approve the template for the board agenda, Payson Unified School District (PUSD) board member Shirley Dye asked to add an invocation to the list of items.

“With the pledge of allegiance, there should be an invocation, all the other board meetings have invocations,” said Dye.

The Gila County Board of Supervisors and the towns of Payson and Star Valley all have invocations before they start meetings. Often a minister, pastor or priest will ask for support and guidance for the meeting.

The other board members squirmed in their seats and scrunched up their faces.

They asked to delay any decision until they had more research.

“I am uncomfortable … but I would rather research it,” said Barbara Underwood, board president. “I don’t know what that church and school separation would say.”

“I would rather research it,” said board member Jim Quinlan.

PUSD Business Manager Kathie Manning said none of the school districts she worked at had an invocation, but one did have a moment of silence.

The Roundup asked on its Facebook page what people thought of an invocation before a school board meeting.

Almost 1,500 people viewed the question and 55 took the time to answer. Most approved of an invocation, but a few cited constitutional provisions requiring the separation of church and state.

However, London Lacy asked for something a little different:

“What about a moment to appreciate the teachers, their skills, patience, insight, wisdom, enforcement, discipline, for making a difference in the lives of our students; surely the connection between them and you in the audience, the school board and the facility itself could use words of encouragement, friendly exchanges and a blessing for all beliefs,” she wrote.


H. Wm. Rhea III 2 years, 11 months ago

So some on the School Board would rather research it? Guess they don't want God answering them back, it might mess up their agenda.


jeff durbin 2 years, 11 months ago

In this day when humanism, socialism and relativism is popular, it is refreshing to see that Shirley has the courage to place things in proper perspective. I wish there were more people like you, but sadly there not. Barbara like most ideologues speaks of the separation of church in state idelogioly which is only found in the communist manifesto. But she would know any better, for she is a product of this same ignorant public education government process. Sadly, Kathie Manning is ignorant of our nation’s Christian heritage in public schools.

Does it matter?

These people have been feeding our children a horrible ideology because they cannot follow God less believe in Him, therefore are fundamentally atheists and that makes everyone stupid. Communism has produced many stupid students like murderers like Che Guevara, Chairman Mao. Stalin and Nelson Mandela who are now praised, both hated God. If you like Nelson Mandela and think he is wonderful, I suggest looking up the term “necklacing” and remember that Barbara Underwood is essentially supporting the same exact ideology, no God and keep the children stupid.

If you have children in public school, you need to pull them out ASAP. Public school is nothing but a machine producing stupidity. All this Board can do is raise taxes, rotate excellent staff and set more telephone poles and obstacle courses, while removing all truth and keeping the children stupid.

Keep up the good work Shirley.


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