Wednesday December 11, 2013
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"For once, you tell me what we should be asking about all this"
My answer to your question>
How is the ATV doing?
Did the drunk man have any relationship to the lady at Walmart? LOL..........
Poor Ted, calm down and have another Legion Beer. You man is doing a great job in the White House, at self destruction.........Lol
But the majority of political leaders in the Presidents party say you are haters, bigots, homophobes, extremists, and old, dying off white people? And lord knows, they have no agenda.
Sounds just like the Obama Affordable Health Care Act, doesn't it?
"You can keep your current Insurance policy, PERIOD".
And we help support the Chinese Govt. buy purchasing and displaying their manufactured ugly solar panels on our roof tops and public school yards.
"To assert that ADOT has somehow been negligent ignores the significant transportation system improvements that have occurred around Arizona".
So, are the artsy fartsy 101 Freeway walls that decorate the 101 Fwy (colored I might add) in the Scottsdale Pima/Shea corridor a smart use of ADOT funding? Or, the large colored decorative pots that adorn the decorated walls of the 51Fwy in North Phoenix? Can we get ADOT funded Elk statues along the 87 and 260 Hwy's that pass though the Town of Payson?
I am sorry for you and the victim. It's a terrible tragedy for all. BUT, I have heard no rational reason as to why it was necessary for your husband to step outside and confront the individual in person or even open the door. You even comment on his frail stature. Why did he not retreat back inside? What was the emergency? Prized Garden flowers being stepped on? A wandering loose dog on the property? The Police were on the way already and had advised not to go outside and confront the individual. No matter how it all plays out, all will have to live with their individual actions.
Tom, your advise to never approach an individual that's pointing a firearm in your direction or at you is absolutely correct. Retreat is not a dirty word in such a situation. If that is not possible, seeking cover might be the next best immediate action as a very temporary solution. If those are not possible, all bets are off and you do what you must, to survive.
Kim, I think you are spot on. What exigent or life threatening circumstance compelled the gun retrieval, and voluntary confrontation to begin with? A person in his day time yard that he could have recognized as a next door neighbor who had been calling for his dog by name aloud. He saw the dog. As for the blood spatter on Mr. Voden the shooter, what evidence thus far says that Mr. Voden did not close the distance between himself and the victim in anger as Voden was confidently armed? Any blood spatter inside the threshold door of his house? I believe not. Did he escalate the situation when he could have remained safe inside his house? Does garden plants being stepped on by a stray dog equal the value of a humans life? The victims wife says she saw her husband 'standing" with his hands raised up just before hearing the shots. This stuff isn't so easy is it? It will all come out in the end. How many lives destroyed over what, a garden and a dog.
I say ditto to Ron's comments about all the above. I have lived in Payson long enough to have read about and watch all the machinations over years on this issue. I don't know any of the personality's involved since the "first board formed/elected, fired, new election, new board, now turmoil again. I will repeat what Ron so simply said about it. " One thing I am certain of is I've had my fill of both and simply want away from it all." And, reading about it as well. Just get it right this time and get er done for the benefit of your community". If Payson and Star Valley can bury the hatchet, you all can too and move forward.
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