Donald Cline

Star Valley

Donald Cline 1 week ago on Heading toward the bottom

Oh, in case you think it won't work, take note that the first one hundred years of our country, according to the authors of the book "1900" published at the turn of the century, the average working man, woman, and child improved their living standard more than anyone in the world had improved it in 25 centuries. The lowly laborer could earn enough money (real money of intrinsic value, not worthless paper that represents debt to the international bankers) to put six kids through high school. High school graduates could earn enough to put six kids through college. College graduates could earn enough to put six kids through University. There was a constant migration from lowly laborer up through captains of industry. Why? Because the money was of intrinsic value, not debt money, and because no one -- even the few who truly deserved it -- expected something for nothing. It was considered shameful to accept charity. And yet, people who needed help received It from their churches, their communities, their fellow man and woman -- not government, stolen from other people at the point of a gun.

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Donald Cline 1 week ago on Heading toward the bottom

Tell you what, Mike: I'm going to give you a really startling tip on how you can really help turn Arizona around into a State with a thriving economy, plenty of jobs available, excellent well-funded schools, and one in which the poor will find themselves awash in abundance ... well ... provided they are willing to work for a living instead of sponging off everyone else: Start voting for true Republicans -- not RINOs, not Democrats in Republican feathers, and certainly not Marxists pretending to be Republicans. Start getting involved in politics and start voting to force the federal government to give Arizona the 70-some-odd percent of the State land it owes us so we can manage it and husband it and derive revenue from it. Vote against every freebie program that some leftist doofus comes up with, because every one of them steals money and jobs from the productive sector and gives them to people who see no point in producing anything if they can get paid for doing nothing. Oppose any legislative attempt to rob a person who produces value for society to grow with on the theory that he "owes" his talents to someone who can't or won't work, and whines that "It's not my fault." Now, don't think I am not compassionate to the poor: The economy that the above will produce will make it really hard to be poor. The poor would really have to work at it to remain poor. And for those who truly deserve assistance, either permanently or a temporary hand up instead of a hand out, the economy would be so productive churches and charity groups would have all kinds of funds to help them out with. Americans are the most generous people on the face of the Earth, if Marxist doofuses will get the heck out of the way and LET THEM PRODUCE and LET THEM KEEP THEIR EARNINGS ON WHAT THEY PRODUCE! In other words, Mike, Capitalists produce jobs and a roaring economy. Socialists produce debt. Decide which side of that fence you are on and quit complaining. Start producing something and make yourself worth the air you breathe and the space you are taking up.

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Donald Cline 1 week ago on Heading toward the bottom

And so are their taxes and their tyrannies. Freebies for everyone is pretty hard on the State Treasury, and some times they have to crack down on those who object to their lives being micromanaged at the point of government's gun.

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Donald Cline 1 week ago on Heading toward the bottom

He'll need more than luck. Somalian warlords use naïve little know-nothings to lick the grime off their boots.

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Donald Cline 1 week ago on Heading toward the bottom

And replace them with the same "Progressives" that bankrupted the Soviet Union, have nearly completely bankrupted Venezuela in spite of its oil, and -- given the First Enemy Agent infesting our White House and his intractable sycophants in Congress -- is doing his level best to bankrupt the United States? I do agree they should identify themselves as Democrats -- or "Marxists" would be more accurate -- rather than perjuring their oath of office to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States.

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Donald Cline 1 week ago on Heading toward the bottom

Well, Meria, the Marxist Mafia subchieftain Eric Holder has now established a "pilot program" to federalize the police in various cities and has bought off the city administration in those cities with grants. The object is to establish the Marxist paradise in those cities so no one ever mistreats any minority by forcing him to work for a living and pay his own way, but of course never investigating a minority for any cowardly attack on a white person -- and don't think I'm being racist; I'm just pointing out that racist Eric Holder has had numerous opportunities to investigate attacks by minorities on whites and has carefully refused to do so, but let a white person defend himself from a potentially lethal attack by a minority -- specifically blacks -- and he's all over it like stink on rotten fish. You can investigate this 'pilot program' to finish installing cultural Marxism in our once free nation by checking out trustandjustice.com. So far six cities -- very liberal bastions of the Rule of Man over the Rule of Law, every one -- have been suckered into the program. One of the first training programs for the police will be how to respect the right of minorities to attack the police without expecting retaliation or self-defense. Since you have repeatedly expressed your disapproval of the only political party of any size that believes America is supposed to be founded on the freedom to keep what you earn instead of being robbed blind by those who think they have a right to the earnings of others, perhaps you would like to relocate to one of those fine utopian paradises, yes?

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Donald Cline 1 week, 1 day ago on Gun control laws impose tyranny

The text of your message must have fallen by the wayside somewhere when the editor composed the subject heading.

Tell me, do you think a tyrant passing what you falsely describe as "reasonable gun control laws" would tell you if his agenda included confiscation, secret lists, etc.? Do you think Hitler told what he called his "subject races" of his plans to run six million Jews and five million non-Jews through the gas chambers when he passed the Nazi Weapons Law of 1938? Do you think the Butcher of the Ukraine, Josef Stalin, told his victims of his intent to confiscate their granaries and starve them to death?

Have you ever heard of a restaurant, school building, or public building shot up by some maniac in the presence of law-abiding folks exercising their right to carry (what you erroneously call) "assault weapons" on these premises? Or have you only heard of maniacs shooting up such places when they have "No Guns Allowed" plastered on the door, ensuring the maniac can vent his murderous rage with impunity?

Perhaps you are not aware that the U.S., the first nation in fifty centuries to be founded on principles of private individual liberty trumping the arbitrary whim of kings, princes, and neighborhood warlords every time, no excuses, no exception, was not founded to wrap you in Kevlar, wet nurse you from cradle to grave, or to save your life. It was founded to make you free to make your own way, make your own decisions according to your own lights so long as you don't infringe upon anyone else's right to do the same, and allow you to defend your own life, your family, your neighborhood, and your State, with force of arms when necessary.

The government isn't here to provide you a living or provide for your safety. It is here to protect your rights. And if you are unwilling to protect your own safety, don't think for a minute you have the right to prohibit others from protecting theirs.

If you own guns and are willing to give them up in a heartbeat, I'll be happy to take them off your hands. Of course, if you ever find out that the 250 million defensive uses of firearms a year to stop crimes in progress -- over 98% of the time never having to fire the weapon -- has nothing whatever to do with police departments or the military, you might change your mind about giving them up "in a heartbeat." Or not. It sounds like your mind is made up, and you have no interest in the facts of the matter.

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Donald Cline 1 week, 1 day ago on Barton serving us or hurting us?

Brenda Barton's bill, HB 2320, requires nothing of the kind. It requires every court, social services agency, and public building -- but not "any other public gathering' -- to respect, honor, uphold, and protect the right of citizens to be armed in their own defense and in defense of the court, social services agency, and public building.

It basically says if you don 't want to honor your oaths of office to uphold and support the Constitution, which guarantees the rights of the people, then you have to be certain their safety, if not their rights, is ensured.

Personally I don't like the idea of government using taxpayer money to deprive the people of their rights, do you? I would rather simply require arrest, prosecution, and incarceration of any government employee -- or any officer of any legal fiction created by government, such as a corporation -- who presumes to abuse his authority by requiring free men and women to give up their rights in violation of the 2nd, 4th, 5th, and 10th Amendments to the U.S. Constitution.

Now perhaps you can explain why you are advocating the destruction of the fundamental rights our nation, and our Constitution, were founded to preserve and protect?

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Donald Cline 2 weeks ago on ‘I was afraid for my life’ not an adequate explanation

Strange, Mel. I guess someone ought to tell the FBI Uniform Crime Reports that. I don't think they have ever heard of it. I know I haven't, and I am a Patron member of the NRA (and three or four other pro-rights anti-communist organizations).

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