With only 1 billion humans on the planet in 1800, why weren't they all rich and polution free?
I think I am going to take another look at the writings of Machiavelli. He had no faith in mankind and he may have been right after all.
Tom it's about constant vigilance. In the above story, look at the times. If the authorities were somehow able to alert the residents....how would they have done that? By what means could they get the word out and to how many?
Living in Pine, how would you have known of a potential threat? How soon?
Tom in my opinion the answer is yes.
All my life I've heard about rights, individual rights, the foundation of freedom. I have also heard about the responsibility that goes with those rights. With responsibility comes both praise and blame.
What is the age of responsibility? Prior to reaching the age of responsiblity should acts of children be curtailed? How else do children learn responsibility?
Curfew is one of those restrictions. The fact that law enforcement chooses not to enforce laws doesn't mean they should go away. Quite the contrary. For example; Riding a bicycle on the sidewalk is against the law. Riding a bicycle on the wrong side of the road towards oncoming traffic is against the law. Riding a bicycle in a crosswalk is against the law.
Just a few examples there is more. For example, Using private property with a motor vehicle to avoid a traffic control device is against the law.
There are more examples but the gist is this. When we stop enforcing the laws on the books we negate the importance of laws. When laws are no longer respected, there is no respect for the law.
Do we have too many silly laws? Sure. Does that mean they shouldn't be enforced or does it mean they have to be corrected?
As a teen, way back when, I was intimidated by the curfew laws and so obeyed them but the main reason was because policemen enforced them.
Mr. Cline I truly love your eloquence but offer this; "...There is no return. No genie has ever gone back into the bottle."... What about the 18th ammendment?
Got wind of this yesterday and I've been hearing the ads on KFYI for the last couple of days. This is so bogus and is outside the rules as far as I'm concerned. Even the name they picked for their PAC is bogus. I guess the example has been set on high. In America's 21st Century he who tells the biggest lies and pays the most to repeat it.......(you decide).
Please don't think me morbid, but I would sure like to know more about the people in that group. 35-64 represents the end of the boomers and their kids. They are also the product of the sixties mindset (hippies) and the Vietnam War. Of all the generations in America, this may be the one who has most lost hope in the future.
We've had 36 deaths in the last three years (on average) on that stretch of two lane road?
Do ADOT statistics back that up or is that political rhetoric?
Why do we allow the Federal Government, through the Department of Education, to say and control what should be taught in schools and how we should behave?
The answer is because education has been bought and paid for by the progressives who have a very different view of what we should know and do.
The power of the Federal dollar is such that our State has created laws to make sure that we keeping getting those dollars regardless of what it costs us and what the results are.
Those dollars, combined with our taxes, support the States Department of Education which makes rules and determines what the education of our youth will be and then they send out what's left of the money to the local County department of Education which disperses it to the School Districts which use what's left to build buildings, pay utilities and maintenance, employe educators and buy educational material to distribute to the students. They further require the students to attend and take tests and pass them.
This requires some research that needs to be done, I'll try but....
If the amount of money that taxpayers, in Payson Unified School District 10, was allowed to remain here in the District, both federal and state and local, how much do you think that would be?
The next obvious question is how much does education cost in PUSD 10?
Then the hard one, Are our children learning what WE want them to learn or what the Government wants them to learn?
Those who have knowledge of the truth will be free, those indocrinated in the rules of governing will be slaves.
I like what you wrote but would expand on your first sentence. Today your sentence is probably true and I saw it become a part of my younger brothers regular lessons. But Education isn't necessarily teaching. Teaching is more than filling voids with facts and youthful brains are full of voids needing filling. If; However, the teacher concentrates on finding the switch in the bottom of the void that stimulates and creates a thirst for learning the truth, then education has been successful. Otherwise it's only brain washing.
Anyone can teach a dog to sit and do other tricks, show me the teacher than can teach a dog reason and learn and you have a teacher extrodinaire.
Love the student and make them thirsty and if the student doesn't learn than the teacher hasn't taught.
How about I give an example of what I mean.
Let's say that I have decided to go into the Window washing business. I start off with just me and my family because we think alike, smile alike and have learned to develop a relationship with our customers. The business catches on, The Customers are pleased with our work and our employees (when they like the employees they like the work.) The business goes viral more employees are needed......Here's the rub.....Do I have the right to say to a prospective employee with no teeth that they don't meet the criteria for employment because of customer expectations. ????? The customer expects the smile.
Yes you can tell me that the customer shouldn't expect an employee with teeth and a radiant smile to wash their windows, but that's what created the business.
Okay let's go further and say the toothless one has a great personality and the other workers like them. Would I have the right to invest in their teeth and expect a commitment to work until they are paid for?
It's all silly, get government out of the way. Our 535 elected representatives have, in my opinion, created more problems than they have cured. They don't need to be their more than about 3 months a year and should be compensated likewise. Okay, done for now. :)
Dan Haapala 4 days ago on 241 Immigration ad paid for by Corporate Execs.
241 Immigration ad paid for by Corporate Execs.
With only 1 billion humans on the planet in 1800, why weren't they all rich and polution free? I think I am going to take another look at the writings of Machiavelli. He had no faith in mankind and he may have been right after all.
Dan Haapala 4 days ago on 244 This fits my definition of "scary."
244 This fits my definition of "scary."
Tom it's about constant vigilance. In the above story, look at the times. If the authorities were somehow able to alert the residents....how would they have done that? By what means could they get the word out and to how many? Living in Pine, how would you have known of a potential threat? How soon?
Dan Haapala 4 days ago on 243 Payson curfew is out of date and ineffective.
243 Payson curfew is out of date and ineffective.
Tom in my opinion the answer is yes. All my life I've heard about rights, individual rights, the foundation of freedom. I have also heard about the responsibility that goes with those rights. With responsibility comes both praise and blame. What is the age of responsibility? Prior to reaching the age of responsiblity should acts of children be curtailed? How else do children learn responsibility? Curfew is one of those restrictions. The fact that law enforcement chooses not to enforce laws doesn't mean they should go away. Quite the contrary. For example; Riding a bicycle on the sidewalk is against the law. Riding a bicycle on the wrong side of the road towards oncoming traffic is against the law. Riding a bicycle in a crosswalk is against the law. Just a few examples there is more. For example, Using private property with a motor vehicle to avoid a traffic control device is against the law. There are more examples but the gist is this. When we stop enforcing the laws on the books we negate the importance of laws. When laws are no longer respected, there is no respect for the law. Do we have too many silly laws? Sure. Does that mean they shouldn't be enforced or does it mean they have to be corrected? As a teen, way back when, I was intimidated by the curfew laws and so obeyed them but the main reason was because policemen enforced them.
Dan Haapala 4 days, 1 hour ago on Minority is dictating to majority
Minority is dictating to majority
Mr. Cline I truly love your eloquence but offer this; "...There is no return. No genie has ever gone back into the bottle."... What about the 18th ammendment?
Dan Haapala 1 week ago on 241 Immigration ad paid for by Corporate Execs.
241 Immigration ad paid for by Corporate Execs.
Got wind of this yesterday and I've been hearing the ads on KFYI for the last couple of days. This is so bogus and is outside the rules as far as I'm concerned. Even the name they picked for their PAC is bogus. I guess the example has been set on high. In America's 21st Century he who tells the biggest lies and pays the most to repeat it.......(you decide).
Dan Haapala 1 week ago on 224 I'll bet this will make you think.
224 I'll bet this will make you think.
Please don't think me morbid, but I would sure like to know more about the people in that group. 35-64 represents the end of the boomers and their kids. They are also the product of the sixties mindset (hippies) and the Vietnam War. Of all the generations in America, this may be the one who has most lost hope in the future.
Dan Haapala 1 week ago on Desperate Gila County road officials hope public will give ADOT an earful
Desperate Gila County road officials hope public will give ADOT an earful
We've had 36 deaths in the last three years (on average) on that stretch of two lane road? Do ADOT statistics back that up or is that political rhetoric?
Dan Haapala 1 week ago on Minority is dictating to majority
Minority is dictating to majority
Why do we allow the Federal Government, through the Department of Education, to say and control what should be taught in schools and how we should behave? The answer is because education has been bought and paid for by the progressives who have a very different view of what we should know and do. The power of the Federal dollar is such that our State has created laws to make sure that we keeping getting those dollars regardless of what it costs us and what the results are. Those dollars, combined with our taxes, support the States Department of Education which makes rules and determines what the education of our youth will be and then they send out what's left of the money to the local County department of Education which disperses it to the School Districts which use what's left to build buildings, pay utilities and maintenance, employe educators and buy educational material to distribute to the students. They further require the students to attend and take tests and pass them. This requires some research that needs to be done, I'll try but.... If the amount of money that taxpayers, in Payson Unified School District 10, was allowed to remain here in the District, both federal and state and local, how much do you think that would be? The next obvious question is how much does education cost in PUSD 10? Then the hard one, Are our children learning what WE want them to learn or what the Government wants them to learn? Those who have knowledge of the truth will be free, those indocrinated in the rules of governing will be slaves.
Dan Haapala 1 week ago on Connect the dots
Connect the dots
I like what you wrote but would expand on your first sentence. Today your sentence is probably true and I saw it become a part of my younger brothers regular lessons. But Education isn't necessarily teaching. Teaching is more than filling voids with facts and youthful brains are full of voids needing filling. If; However, the teacher concentrates on finding the switch in the bottom of the void that stimulates and creates a thirst for learning the truth, then education has been successful. Otherwise it's only brain washing. Anyone can teach a dog to sit and do other tricks, show me the teacher than can teach a dog reason and learn and you have a teacher extrodinaire. Love the student and make them thirsty and if the student doesn't learn than the teacher hasn't taught.
Dan Haapala 1 week, 5 days ago on 219 Does a company have a right to make this policy?
219 Does a company have a right to make this policy?
How about I give an example of what I mean. Let's say that I have decided to go into the Window washing business. I start off with just me and my family because we think alike, smile alike and have learned to develop a relationship with our customers. The business catches on, The Customers are pleased with our work and our employees (when they like the employees they like the work.) The business goes viral more employees are needed......Here's the rub.....Do I have the right to say to a prospective employee with no teeth that they don't meet the criteria for employment because of customer expectations. ????? The customer expects the smile. Yes you can tell me that the customer shouldn't expect an employee with teeth and a radiant smile to wash their windows, but that's what created the business. Okay let's go further and say the toothless one has a great personality and the other workers like them. Would I have the right to invest in their teeth and expect a commitment to work until they are paid for? It's all silly, get government out of the way. Our 535 elected representatives have, in my opinion, created more problems than they have cured. They don't need to be their more than about 3 months a year and should be compensated likewise. Okay, done for now. :)