By the way, Paulk says, "...by these same guys year after year" and "...over the years." and "...in the past", as though he can claim founding father status on here. But, guess what??? Even though to some of us, it feels as though he has been posting forever, it has actually only been 4 1/3 years. Lighten up Mr. Paulk and play nice. Reading your past posts is like being sucked into a maelstrom of hate, adversity and constant confrontation.
Boy, I guess that my very long weekend dulled my thought processes. You are exactly right, Pat. I do not believe that reverse 911 would work with cell phones.
I love your mention of a whistle or siren or bell that could be heard all over town. Some people might not like it, but, too bad. Safety is more important than a few seconds of discomfort.
Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen...let's all go to our separate corners!!
Mr. Hinshaw, I absolutely agree with you, and do not blame you one bit for getting defensive and calling Paulk out; however, please remember that Paulk utilizes name calling and personal attacks, which he then follows up with (insincere) shocked and dismayed apologies. In example, "Sorry about the name calling, but I have been called a socialst, hippie, troll, thug, etc., by these same guys year after year." Why, I can almost hear him whining to his mommy, "but, but, they started it!!"
As for your invitation to Paulk to debate, ain't gonna happen. Paulk confuses opinion and supposition with fact and common knowledge.
I would truly hate to see anybody get banned over this absolutely inane argument. Don't let Paulk draw you in!
Isn't the reverse 911 system in place here? I know that last year during the Crown King Fire, evacuations were facilitated by utilizing the reverse 911 system. Should work here as well.
There are predictions being bandied about that this will be the worst wildfire season ever. That being said, I will go along with Pat in her question as to what the budget committee and the council are thinking with.
I also agree with Barbara. Robert Lockhart is a tremendous asset to this town; and his knowledge and expertise are vital to our increased safe growth.
As for doing away with the reserve program...are they serious?? Our Firefighters are stretched pretty thin as it is. Doing away with their extra help is ridiculous.
Barbara's final sentence "You can never say well it won't happen to me because it can and does everyday across the U.S.", is more accurate than most know. I personally have been in the position of watching the house next door to mine go up in flames. I probably called 911 3 or 4 times, because while it is just a few minutes between the first call and the arrival of the first fire truck, it feels like eons. There are few feelings so sickening as watching someone's home and all of their belongings destroyed in mere minutes. Watching the flames lick at the trees that border and are on your property. Being told that you cannot go in to your own home, until the fire is contained. Having your entire cul-de-sac, as well as the alleyway that backs up to our houses, blocked by fire trucks and hoses and fire fighters, and police officers; and multitudes of lookie loos.
In my estimation, those firefighters needed every single person that was on hand, and they worked together like a well built and oiled machine.
I add my voice of concern to your's, Pat and Barbara...what in the world is the council and the budget committee thinking???
The economy. A lot of people lost their jobs and those in that particular age bracket are far less employable than the younger ages. When faced with losing everything they've got, many people choose suicide over homelessness or relying on others.
Thank you Mr. Naughton for your thoughtful, insightful, detailed and public query.
I shall address your questions in the order in which they were asked.
"How do those rules strike you, seeing as how it’s your page?"
For the most part, I agree with them. I don't care for name calling. It is hurtful and unproductive. One that I don't agree with is the limit of one or two responses per issue. I personally love the lively, thoughtful and passionate responses; and I truly enjoy the lengthy debates
"Or do you favor some alternate rules?"
Hmmmm, perhaps one should be required to submit a mental health evaluation prior to being permitted to post? (Ooops, sorry, a bit of levity there!!!) I am not fond of a lot of stultifying rules. Be nice. Be polite. Be respectful, and NO bullying.
"Should we not run letters about non-local topics at all?"
I REALLY do not like this one! Payson is part of a much larger world and most of us are interested in that world; and should be able to discuss world issues.
"Should we limit people to one letter a month?"
I thought that rule was in place at one time?
"Should we run even the strange and bizarre tirades?
Absolutely!!!
In summation, if I remember correctly, at one time, there were rules in place which essentially boiled down to: Be nice. Be polite. No name calling. No cursing. Attack the issue, not the writer. You get the idea. In essence, follow the golden rule. Do unto others.
Oh my goodness Mr. Paulk, you never cease to amaze me. You actually have the audacity to state, "I have followed Evan's rants for years and I have a pretty good feel for what goes on in that paranoid head of his; and above all else he is a hater." Anybody who has followed this Forum for any length of time, is aware that Mr. Evan's and I had a MAJOR falling out a few years ago. Furthermore, I have been acquainted with Mr. Evans much longer than I think even he realizes. That being said, I would NEVER presume to say that I know what goes on in his head, or in anybody else's head, for that matter. Additionally, under the circumstances in which I became acquainted with Mr. Evans, lo, these many years ago, I can state that "hater" is most definitely NOT a term by which I would describe Mr. Evans. (are there snowballs in hell yet, Mr. Naughton? Yup, you read it right, I am defending Mr. Evans!!)
I realize that I am addressing your comments in reverse, but, deal with it. As for "it's the Teabaggers and the Conservatives, not liberals, who keep bringing the hate against our black President, that you referred to as "Obummer", along with ALL other minorites", sorry, Mr. Paulk, once again, I find that I must set you straight; I am certain that there are some Teabaggers and Conservatives who are racist, as I am equally certain that there are liberals who are racist. However, YOU yourself in this very comment, referred to our president as "our black President". First, Barack Obama is genetically less than half black. I will make no bones about the fact that I dislike him, but, hey, here's a news flash, I would dislike him if he were all black, all white, Asian, pink, purple, green or multi. I DISLIKE HIS POLITICS, NOT HIS COLOR. It is the liberals who put minorities in a clearly defined box of expected behavior, and when the people behave in a manner that is not in keeping with the liberal expectation, those people get called vile names, such as, sell-out, Uncle Tom, oreo, etc. Ben Carson is a perfect example. Why, if Dr, Carson were to throw his hat in the political ring, I would be jumping on his coattails as fast as I could!!
Finally Teddy, in my opinion, Mr. Rappaport has been running Star Valley like his own little fiefdom. He took it upon himself to write a letter supporting a not entirely popular cause, and he did so using town letterhead, thereby, sending the inference that the Town of Star Valley was in full support of that cause. then, when he got called on the carpet for the impropriety, rather than owning up to the error in judgement and apologizing, he resigns his position. In other words, "if I can't play the game my way, I'm going to take my toys and go home".
I have a favorite expression, "in living a life in the light, one of transparency, one must always avoid the appearance of impropriety". Read that again, AVOID THE APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY.
Kim Chittick 2 days, 11 hours ago on Do hate-filled letters meet criteria for publication?
Do hate-filled letters meet criteria for publication?
By the way, Paulk says, "...by these same guys year after year" and "...over the years." and "...in the past", as though he can claim founding father status on here. But, guess what??? Even though to some of us, it feels as though he has been posting forever, it has actually only been 4 1/3 years. Lighten up Mr. Paulk and play nice. Reading your past posts is like being sucked into a maelstrom of hate, adversity and constant confrontation.
Why so miserable and unhappy Teddy?
Kim Chittick 2 days, 11 hours ago on 244 This fits my definition of "scary."
244 This fits my definition of "scary."
Boy, I guess that my very long weekend dulled my thought processes. You are exactly right, Pat. I do not believe that reverse 911 would work with cell phones.
I love your mention of a whistle or siren or bell that could be heard all over town. Some people might not like it, but, too bad. Safety is more important than a few seconds of discomfort.
Kim Chittick 2 days, 11 hours ago on Do hate-filled letters meet criteria for publication?
Do hate-filled letters meet criteria for publication?
Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen...let's all go to our separate corners!!
Mr. Hinshaw, I absolutely agree with you, and do not blame you one bit for getting defensive and calling Paulk out; however, please remember that Paulk utilizes name calling and personal attacks, which he then follows up with (insincere) shocked and dismayed apologies. In example, "Sorry about the name calling, but I have been called a socialst, hippie, troll, thug, etc., by these same guys year after year." Why, I can almost hear him whining to his mommy, "but, but, they started it!!"
As for your invitation to Paulk to debate, ain't gonna happen. Paulk confuses opinion and supposition with fact and common knowledge.
I would truly hate to see anybody get banned over this absolutely inane argument. Don't let Paulk draw you in!
Kim Chittick 2 days, 11 hours ago on 244 This fits my definition of "scary."
244 This fits my definition of "scary."
Isn't the reverse 911 system in place here? I know that last year during the Crown King Fire, evacuations were facilitated by utilizing the reverse 911 system. Should work here as well.
Kim Chittick 1 week ago on Town Budget
Town Budget
There are predictions being bandied about that this will be the worst wildfire season ever. That being said, I will go along with Pat in her question as to what the budget committee and the council are thinking with.
I also agree with Barbara. Robert Lockhart is a tremendous asset to this town; and his knowledge and expertise are vital to our increased safe growth.
As for doing away with the reserve program...are they serious?? Our Firefighters are stretched pretty thin as it is. Doing away with their extra help is ridiculous.
Barbara's final sentence "You can never say well it won't happen to me because it can and does everyday across the U.S.", is more accurate than most know. I personally have been in the position of watching the house next door to mine go up in flames. I probably called 911 3 or 4 times, because while it is just a few minutes between the first call and the arrival of the first fire truck, it feels like eons. There are few feelings so sickening as watching someone's home and all of their belongings destroyed in mere minutes. Watching the flames lick at the trees that border and are on your property. Being told that you cannot go in to your own home, until the fire is contained. Having your entire cul-de-sac, as well as the alleyway that backs up to our houses, blocked by fire trucks and hoses and fire fighters, and police officers; and multitudes of lookie loos.
In my estimation, those firefighters needed every single person that was on hand, and they worked together like a well built and oiled machine.
I add my voice of concern to your's, Pat and Barbara...what in the world is the council and the budget committee thinking???
Kim Chittick 1 week, 1 day ago on 224 I'll bet this will make you think.
224 I'll bet this will make you think.
The economy. A lot of people lost their jobs and those in that particular age bracket are far less employable than the younger ages. When faced with losing everything they've got, many people choose suicide over homelessness or relying on others.
Kim Chittick 1 week, 2 days ago on Editor wants help setting policy for letter writers
Editor wants help setting policy for letter writers
Thank you Mr. Naughton for your thoughtful, insightful, detailed and public query.
I shall address your questions in the order in which they were asked.
"How do those rules strike you, seeing as how it’s your page?" For the most part, I agree with them. I don't care for name calling. It is hurtful and unproductive. One that I don't agree with is the limit of one or two responses per issue. I personally love the lively, thoughtful and passionate responses; and I truly enjoy the lengthy debates
"Or do you favor some alternate rules?" Hmmmm, perhaps one should be required to submit a mental health evaluation prior to being permitted to post? (Ooops, sorry, a bit of levity there!!!) I am not fond of a lot of stultifying rules. Be nice. Be polite. Be respectful, and NO bullying.
"Should we not run letters about non-local topics at all?" I REALLY do not like this one! Payson is part of a much larger world and most of us are interested in that world; and should be able to discuss world issues.
"Should we limit people to one letter a month?" I thought that rule was in place at one time?
"Should we run even the strange and bizarre tirades? Absolutely!!!
In summation, if I remember correctly, at one time, there were rules in place which essentially boiled down to: Be nice. Be polite. No name calling. No cursing. Attack the issue, not the writer. You get the idea. In essence, follow the golden rule. Do unto others.
Kim Chittick 1 week, 2 days ago on Bill Rappaport expounds on resignation
Bill Rappaport expounds on resignation
Thank you Mr. Lemon.
Kim Chittick 1 week, 5 days ago on BABY
BABY
Aaaaaw, CONGRATULATIONS PAT!!!! Blessings wished for you and yours!!!
Kim Chittick 2 weeks, 4 days ago on Bill Rappaport expounds on resignation
Bill Rappaport expounds on resignation
Oh my goodness Mr. Paulk, you never cease to amaze me. You actually have the audacity to state, "I have followed Evan's rants for years and I have a pretty good feel for what goes on in that paranoid head of his; and above all else he is a hater." Anybody who has followed this Forum for any length of time, is aware that Mr. Evan's and I had a MAJOR falling out a few years ago. Furthermore, I have been acquainted with Mr. Evans much longer than I think even he realizes. That being said, I would NEVER presume to say that I know what goes on in his head, or in anybody else's head, for that matter. Additionally, under the circumstances in which I became acquainted with Mr. Evans, lo, these many years ago, I can state that "hater" is most definitely NOT a term by which I would describe Mr. Evans. (are there snowballs in hell yet, Mr. Naughton? Yup, you read it right, I am defending Mr. Evans!!)
I realize that I am addressing your comments in reverse, but, deal with it. As for "it's the Teabaggers and the Conservatives, not liberals, who keep bringing the hate against our black President, that you referred to as "Obummer", along with ALL other minorites", sorry, Mr. Paulk, once again, I find that I must set you straight; I am certain that there are some Teabaggers and Conservatives who are racist, as I am equally certain that there are liberals who are racist. However, YOU yourself in this very comment, referred to our president as "our black President". First, Barack Obama is genetically less than half black. I will make no bones about the fact that I dislike him, but, hey, here's a news flash, I would dislike him if he were all black, all white, Asian, pink, purple, green or multi. I DISLIKE HIS POLITICS, NOT HIS COLOR. It is the liberals who put minorities in a clearly defined box of expected behavior, and when the people behave in a manner that is not in keeping with the liberal expectation, those people get called vile names, such as, sell-out, Uncle Tom, oreo, etc. Ben Carson is a perfect example. Why, if Dr, Carson were to throw his hat in the political ring, I would be jumping on his coattails as fast as I could!!
Finally Teddy, in my opinion, Mr. Rappaport has been running Star Valley like his own little fiefdom. He took it upon himself to write a letter supporting a not entirely popular cause, and he did so using town letterhead, thereby, sending the inference that the Town of Star Valley was in full support of that cause. then, when he got called on the carpet for the impropriety, rather than owning up to the error in judgement and apologizing, he resigns his position. In other words, "if I can't play the game my way, I'm going to take my toys and go home".
I have a favorite expression, "in living a life in the light, one of transparency, one must always avoid the appearance of impropriety". Read that again, AVOID THE APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY.