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Pat, Tom is well aware of how I feel and the deep respect that I have for him. My derision and amusement were not directed at Tom.
Seriously Pat, you are preaching to the choir!
As for research, I do a fair amount myself, so I know exactly from whence he comes.
Good job Tom, good job! The boss is happy with you!!
By the way, it is considered a conflict of interest and poor form for the blog administrator to insert himself into discussions; but then that has never stopped any of you before!
One final point: At the Council meeting last week, several citizens got up to speak and when Kenny saw which way the wind was blowing, he cut off public comments, saying that they would "table public discussion until they could plan a public meeting, oh, let's see, perhaps on December 18 (you know, ONE WEEK BEFORE Christmas, when many people are out of town or busy with family or other plans and unable to attend a council meeting)". Also at that Council meeting, Council Woman Su Connell (you know, the council person that was elected BY THE PEOPLE OF PAYSON, and who is not, or should not be, accountable to the Mayor, but TO THE PEOPLE!!!) started to speak up, very visibly, and obviously, Kenny put his hand on her forearm and shook his head, no, at her. Seriously??? Kenny is now stopping the elected representatives OF THE PEOPLE from speaking out?
Just to make everyone aware, previously, during the election, when I was speaking out and bringing FACTS to the public, I was making some people very unhappy. I had comments deleted, I received emails to my personal email account threatening me with lawsuits, I had people who were not approved "friends" on Facebook commenting in a derogatory manner on my posts, a situation in which I was involved was outright lied about to other people in an effort to make me look bad and cost me other positions in which I have been instrumental in making a tremendous difference, and finally, I was personally physically threatened! Now, I ask, are these the actions of good, decent, morally upright people who are simply trying to do their level best for the towns of Payson and Star Valley? Or are these the actions of morally corrupt thugs who are seeing their grandiose plans disrupted?
"In plain English, the SLE can do what the towns of Payson and Star Valley tell it to do." That is it in a nutshell. It does NOT say that the SLE will do what Kenny Evans tells it to do, but what the TOWNS of Payson and Star Valley tell it to do.
The SLE/Rim Country Educational ALLIANCE, has a mission, a task if you will, that was clearly and plainly defined from the beginning. Kenny was not even supposed to be involved in the SLE. Then he discovered that the people involved on the SLE Board would not roll over and accede to his every demand, so, out of the blue, Kenny decides to do an end run around the Alliance and form the Rim Country Educational FOUNDATION. Now, Tom, I know that you are a very intelligent man, and that you can connect the dots. Think about it very honestly...what was the reason for Kenny to form the RCE FOUNDATION, other than to get around the ALLIANCE? Is there REALLY a need to throw another entity into the mix? The ALLIANCE has been doing a great job up to this point, for the people of Payson and Star Valley, and to see out their mission of bringing a four year college campus to Payson.
Pat is correct, Kenny Evans is trying to control everything and everyone involved in this debacle, and when he learned that he could not control Steve Drury and/or the RCEA Board, he just started stomping around like a bull in a china shop, huffing and puffing, and forming new entities and issuing press releases which were not within his rights to do.
Absolutely, Mr. Hamric!!!
Oh, Ron, Darlin' (LOL ;-)~
Now, come on, you KNOW how OCD I am!! Especially about writing! I read most publications, local, state, national, international and on-line, with a spoon in my mouth to keep from grinding my teeth to powder! The mistakes I see make me crazy. Especially in light of the fact that I would dearly love to be paid to write!!!
To put a fine point on it...I am not the one who initially pointed out Pete's error, I simply entered the discussion as, regardless of the excuses or justifications, I still feel that when one is a professional journalist and is paid for the privilege, there should be just a bit more pride in one's work.
Oh Ron, make no mistake, I have incredible respect and admiration for Pat's determination and perseverance. And you are absolutely correct in that she is definitely a strong force on these boards. However, in speaking out in the community with people who know that I post here, I have repeatedly heard that people are afraid to enter many discussions for fear of Pat telling them to get the heck out of dodge. People should be allowed to voice an opinion without someone telling them "if you don't like it here, MOVE". That is the beauty of these boards. They give each of us an opportunity to discuss things which we would like to see changed.
On a personal note, Pat has been amazingly supportive of me personally and privately on several issues, so I am most certainly not criticizing her. Simply pointing out that sometimes a well worn comment wears thin.
Ron, I absolutely agree with you that none of us is without fault. However, the difference between the rest of us, and Pete, along with the other reporters? They are being paid to be spelling, punctuation and grammatically correct. It is their job, correct verbiage is kind of a requirement of a journalist.
Wonder how many times you could have sprayed the fire hose on the wrong building, or driven the fire truck down the wrong block, before you got called on it?
I haven't the slightest problem with a business making a profit. However, I do have a problem with that same business trying to make their entire days profit on one sale.
You are exactly correct...the stations actually charge for air!!! Which is, for me, less of a problem than their exorbitant fuel prices. After all, the station has to purchase and install the equipment for customers to put the air in their tires. The hoses, the compressors, the gauges, and the tire chuck, to name a few of the necessary pieces of equipment. On many more than one occasion, I have attempted to use the air compressor at a station, only to discover that some yahoo, busted the chuck, or ran over it because they did not bother to put the hose back up out of the way. That stuff costs money; and in my experience, if someone has to go into the store, give the clerk a bit of money and show their face, for the use of the air compressor, they are less likely to destroy it.
To go back to the price of fuel in Payson...without showing me an invoice in black and white that indicates that these gas stations/companies are paying approximately $.50 per gallon to have the fuel delivered here, I will still cry, Gougers!! By my calculations, based upon research, the average delivery truck carries approximately 10,000 gallons of fuel for delivery. Multiply that by $.50, and you come up with $5,000.00. I truly and seriously doubt that Maverick, Safeway, Giant and all of the others are paying that kind of money to have their fuel delivered to Payson. Especially when one considers that I am also certain that there is a delivery charge for those same companies to have the fuel delivered to their stations in the Valley.
It is simple economics.
Finally, every single one of us on here, has come on at one point or another, with a gripe about something. Every single one of us!!! Going to the gas stations and talking to them won't do any good. The people who are working the cash registers are no more benefitting from the outrageous prices than you or I. The best way to effect change is by spreading the word and boycotting the gougers. That is exactly what Mr. Graziano was trying to do.
As for you getting tired of hearing people complain about the same thing over and over again, yup, many of the rest of us feel the same way. Perhaps in the future, if you see a subject line that looks like the same old tired complaint, you could simply avoid that discussion, in the interest of not getting irritated. Because, frankly Pat, many of us get tired of you telling anybody who has a complaint about something that you don't agree with, to leave, or get out of town, or follow the highway somewhere else. This is our home as well, and we do have a right to gripe. It's human nature.
Patricia Johnson, you hit the nail right on!!! Financial motivation is almost always the strongest!!
Information is being gathered to be provided to the Arizona A.G.'s office. I am also wondering if perhaps the IRS should be alerted to commence a review of the records of MHA? After all, as an IRS designated 501(c)3, the regulations and guidelines by which they are compelled to comply are fairly stringent.
I just grow so weary of self serving manipulative, greedy people.
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