Thursday September 3, 2015
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Hmmm, Pat, your son sounds like me! At 4 years of age, I stuck a pair of tweezers in a light socket. It melted the tweezers to a nub, and left soot on my little arms up to my elbows, with nary a burn to be seen. When Grandma was babysitting me, I swallowed an entire bottle of baby aspirin. This was way back in the old days before the size of the bottles was regulated and it was a BIG bottle. Hey, they tasted good!!! Not only did I not get sick, I didn't even have to go to the hospital.
All of that being said, mother's cannot have eyes on every child every single waking moment of the child's life. In my opinion, the above situation was simply a very sad, tragic accident. Personally, I see no culpability on the part of Mr. Haley. Poor man has a right to have his own home set up for his comfort and accommodation. Of course, us "Monday morning quarterbacks" can speculate and postulate all we want that the mom should have been watching the kids while they were in a strange home. Yes, she absolutely should have! However, she had no way of knowing that in the small amount of time she had eyes averted, the kids would find something which would bring about such horrendous and tragic circumstances.
My heart breaks for her, and my prayers ask for peace for her. Actually, for her, as well as for Mr. Haley. I cannot imagine the depths of grief he must feel.
There was a story a few years ago about McDonalds being built in Sedona. I haven't all of the details, and I am too tired to research it. However, it seems that I remember that McDonalds was not allowed to use it's normal primary colors, and instead had to use "southwest" colors.
He may also be the son or nephew of Fred Wagenhals. Curiously, when I went back to confirm the information, at the source where I initially found it, the source had disappeared from the Roundup site. Interesting.
This is an interesting conundrum: All of you make excellent points. I agree 100% with Mr. Sandoval that efficient and knowledgeable utilization of technology is essential in this fast paced and rapidly evolving society. However, I also agree wholeheartedly with Pat that the ability to process simple basic math, addition, subtraction, multiplication and division without utilizing any form of technology other than the amazing brains with which our Creator endowed us is also essential.
To really recognize how deeply the use of technology has impacted our society, one simply needs to think back a few months to the incidents of fiber optic cables leading into the Rim Country being damaged. Our community was virtually paralyzed. Businesses were unable to process sales, communications were seriously impacted and few younger people recognized how detrimental their lack of knowledge was to themselves and others.
Providing students with very pricey calculators is NOT going to help them in the long run. Furthermore, I would be very interested to know how many of those calculators will still be in operation after being in use for one year. Some kids have little regard for that which does not belong to them.
Maybe $$$$ REALLY can buy anything. Did anybody take note of this convicts last name? He is either the grandson or great nephew of the man who owned the monstrosity out in Chaparral Pines called Log Mahal, Fred Wagenhals. The senior Mr. Wagenhals has a GREAT deal of money, so much in fact, that a few years ago when he won a million dollars in the Arizona lottery, it was almost a non-event. This is also the same Fred Wagenhals for whom our esteemed Mayor approved construction of a swimming pool while Payson was still under water restrictions. Coincidence? YOU connect the dots. This young man should be in jail. Why isn't he?
Hmmm, isn't it interesting...Steve Drury who was the Chairman of the SLE RCEA resigned because he was tired of being vilified, and lied to and about; and now Mary Kastner is experiencing the same issue. Hmmmmm, what or who, is the common denominator?
Seems when the minions don't follow the king's desires, they get banished. How many more will go before the townspeople wise up??? Or will the king just do as he wishes and to the devil with following the rules and what's right?
Hey Pat, something else that is connected with Mr. Hirani and the Basha's shopping center: Story in the Roundup this week about the dry cleaners which was owned by Steve Drury being closed for non-payment of rent. Mr. Drury had a sewer line collapse under his business and Mr. Hirani's corporation refused to repair it. So, Mr. Drury had to spend money out of his own pocket to provide a toilet for his employees, so he stopped paying his rent. The Hirani corporation changed the locks on the business. locking out Mr. Drury, as well as all of the customers whose dry cleaning was inside. Mr. Drury has been at odds with King Kenny for quite a while. Coincidence?
Pat, due to various health concerns, I monitor sodium and sugar intake. Which means that I read poduct labels diligently. I have been appalled by the items which contain sugar or sugar products, which you would never imagine need to contain sugar. Just to name a couple: bread and canned tomatoes. Yours is a good idea in principle, but in practice could be very difficult.
Ron, yes, indeed I do know you and how you feel about this kind of thing. Like you, I do not "lend" money. I consider it a gift and if I get it back, good for me and for the beneficiary. If I don't, well, I didn't expect to in the first place. However, EBT cards are a different kettle of fish. There are already restrictions placed on what can be purchased with the cards, thereby implying a tacit "judgment". I would never suggest that frozen, prepared foods (ie; pizzas, dinners, pot-pies, etc) should not be purchased with EBT cards, as I am well aware that there are people either physically incapable of, or without the knowledge to, prepare a meal from scratch. However, I still, and will continue to, contend that using your EBT card at a restaurant, fast food, or otherwise, is a tremendous waste of the tax-payer supported funds which people have been given; and as there are people working for their living who cannot afford to eat regularly at restaurants of any type, it is a huge kick in the teeth for them to know that what they work so hard for is being abused by others.
I know people working 2 and 3 jobs in order to avoid needing assistance, who have to budget a monthly treat of eating out. As for an ice cold beer? Or a nice glass of wine? Sorry, not in the budget. And cigarettes? Well, they are a distant memory.
No judgment here, just simple practicality, mixed in with a healthy dose of reality.
Forgot to address the "judge not" contingent. If we are truly not supposed to judge, then why are there any restrictions AT ALL on the use of EBT cards? Shouldn't we all just keep our eyes and our mouth shut? Let them buy WHATEVER they want with the cards that are being provided AT TAXPAYER expense. I mean, my goodness sakes, why should it be up to us, to deem alcohol and cigarettes unnecessary? Shouldn't people on food stamps be allowed a treat? Perhaps in the future, when churches are putting together food bags for Thanksgiving and Christmas, they should also add in a case of beer, or a few bottles of wine, perhaps even a pack or two of cigarettes; because, heck, it is the holidays and needy people should be allowed to celebrate just like anybody else.
I will reiterate: given what I personally do, have done, and continue to do, I am fairly comfortable with my level of charitable compassion. Some anecdotal experience: There are people who have free and unlimited access to meat, vegetables, fruits, breads, canned and bagged goods, and various and sundry other edibles. All that is required is that they prepare it for themselves. Some only require heating. And yet, they will still run to the local gas station and buy a Big Gulp and a tray of nachos, because currently they are acceptable on the EBT program card.
I have had time to get my thoughts in order, and to remind myself that we all deal with things in different ways.
The point I was making is that I feel that Food stamps should be an emergency measure to get people through rough times, and NOT something that they depend on month after month after year. They should NOT be a regular fact of life in how people make ends meet. There are alternate methods of treating yourself and your kids, besides a cheeseburger at McDonald's.
As for "giving the government too much more control", I fail to see how precluding the use of EBT cards at restaurants (fast food or otherwise) is too controlling. The use of EBT cards is already precluded for alcohol, cigarettes, chew and health and beauty items. On the other hand, EBT cards can be used for all "food-type" items, frozen dinners, chips, cookies, soda pop, frozen pizza, etc.
For the divorced mother with 3 kids, in Tom's earlier scenario, the $15-$20 dollars that she would spend at McDonald's, could be better and much more nutritiously spent on a whole chicken, potatoes and vegetables, with a carton of ice cream for a treat and still a bit of money left over.
I absolutely deplore the thought of someone who is truly needy, going hungry, because of a surfeit of pride keeping them from applying for help. However, I can assure, those are the people who would NEVER pile their food items on the conveyor belt, with the prohibited items piled behind for which they would find the cash.
I will stipulate that, of course, I am not in every grocery store, 24/7; however, when you see those piles of "disapproved items" which will be paid cash for, I have NEVER seen a treat for a child. No, never a coloring book and crayons, or a small toy, or a new outfit. Nope, 99% of the time it is a case of beer, a bottle or two of whiskey and some wine, and then they ask for a carton of cigarettes.
To address Tom's assertion that this proposed measure is too much government control, were I in charge of the food stamp program, each and every recipient of food stamps would be required to attend regular nutrition and cooking classes. In these classes, they would learn how one can buy the cheapest cut of beef or chicken available, throw it in a crock pot with some water, salt and pepper, maybe an onion, potatoes and other veggies, and have a delicious meal waiting when they get home from work. They would learn to shop for bread, eggs, cheese, milk, and vegetables; rather than frozen pizza's and soda pop. However, in light of the fact that I can't control everybody, I have to choke it up when I watch the shopping carts filled with zero nutritious junk.
Finally, there would be absolutely no need for a separate card, or a different, and costly program to enforce the no fast food prohibition. All that simply needs to be done is make the fast food purveyors, et al, aware that they will no longer be reimbursed for purchases which are disapproved in the EBT card program.
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