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Tom… just a quick update on the Update:
The House Rules Committee has scheduled a hearing on HCR2027 for tomorrow, Monday the 24th, at 1pm in Room HHR4 at the Capitol Building.
That's the bill to allow Arizona to join with other states – ten at this writing – that are currently moving on this legislation and demand that Congress call for a Convention of States to propose amendments to the US Constitution, limited exclusively to imposing fiscal restraints on the federal government, limiting the power and jurisdiction of the federal government, and limiting the terms of office for its officials and for members of Congress.
One of the sponsors of the bill, Representative David Gowan, sits on the Rules Committee, so he will naturally be an ally, but the rest of the members need to hear from like-minded Arizonans who support the fundamental notion that it was the several states that created, and are therefore the ultimate caretakers of, the federal government. The original Founders felt that oversight by the states was a duty of such magnitude and an obligation so critical to the survival of the Union that they gave the states in Article V the power and authority, equal to that of Congress, to amend the Constitution at any time should the need arise.
The question before them tomorrow will be whether or not that time has come.
The question before us today is whether or not we will get involved. In determining our answer, we might ask ourselves:
Excellent alternative, Donald... I should have included it as the "source." Another non-Facepage is this one - the members of the Rules Committee... they need to hear from us: http://www.azleg.gov/CommitteeInfo.asp?Committee_ID=9&Session_ID=112
UPDATE! ==> The House Rules Committee (of our Arizona Legislature) has scheduled a hearing on HCR2027 for this coming Monday at 1pm in Room HHR4 at the Capitol. This is the piece of legislation to allow Arizona to join with other states and demand that Congress call for a Convention of States to propose amendments to the US Constitution. These amendments would impose fiscal restraints on the federal government, limit the power and jurisdiction of the federal government, and limit the terms of office for its officials and for members of Congress. The government is NOT going to fix itself... it's up to us. Follow this link, join the Group, get informed and get involved. It's time we remembered... this is our country!
Heh... captive audience? Sometimes when I hear people seriously arguing about Justin Beiber or which is the better $200 basketball shoe, I think maybe a couple hours as members of a "captive audience" might not be such a bad idea for them... and might be of benefit to the world! But that's just me.
Thanks again for steering me to the Gutenberg Project... what an incredible resource!
I downloaded the DH Montgomery book, but I'm afraid it may be a bit too broad for my interests... at least for today, at any rate. But I did find another more relevant text, "A Report of the Debates and Proceedings in the Secret Sessions of the Conference" (1864), by LE Chittenden, who was the Vermont delegate to the Washington Peace Conference of 1861.
From the introduction and the first few pages, it appears to be a contemporaneously written journal of an actual Article V convention of states that succeeded in its mission- proposing to Congress an amendment that would have avoided the Civil War.
As history has shown, it was Congress that failed to send the proposed amendment out to the states for ratification, and the nation went to war with itself at a cost of over 600,000 American lives - the largest American death toll of any war in our history.
At over 600 pages, it may take some time to satisfy my curiosity, but I hope to find out what hurdles they faced, and how they overcame them. In this one instance, as it relates to successfully calling the convention itself, if we can learn from history, maybe it WILL repeat itself.
You're welcome, Tom, and thank you for the link. There's no more important thing that we as individuals can do that to become informed. Otherwise, there WILL come that day when we say, "How the hell did this happen?"
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This is happening, folks. Arizona now joins at least eight other states that are currently moving similar bills through their respective legislatures, and this is just since the movement formally began at the beginning of the year!
If you are an out-of-state subscriber to The Payson Roundup, here’s a web site that will provide you with everything you need to find out where your state is (or isn’t) in what will most certainly be the most important constitutionally conservative political movement in modern history.
Convention of States Project - http://conventionofstates.com/
If you are in Arizona and want to keep tabs on the progress of these bills, or better yet, get involved, then why not do like the president - pick up a phone or grab a pen! Below is a link to the state legislature’s web site. This is a grass roots movement, and its success depends entirely on folks like us contacting our legislators to express our support, and to encourage theirs.
Arizona State Legislature - http://www.azleg.gov/
Article V – It’s a solution as big as the problem.
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Yesterday (February 11th), the Arizona State House Federalism and Fiscal Responsibility Committee met for the 3rd day in a row for further discussion, debate and finally a vote on HCR2027 Calling for A Convention of States for the Purpose of Proposing Amendments to the U.S. Constitution; and HB2305 Joining a Compact of States to Propose a Balanced Budget Amendment under Article V of the United States Constitution.
Both items passed in committee, and were sent to the full house with a “Do Pass” recommendation!
Just to be clear, both of these proposals are authorized under Article V of the US Constitution. They involve local, state-driven efforts that are independent of Congress to propose amendments to the constitution, amendments which then would be sent out to the several states for ratification. Neither of them is a radical “constitutional convention,” which would be extra-judicial and would never be used except by those wishing to scrap our current form of government and establish a new one. A Convention of States is a very well-defined, carefully regulated process for the people of each state to propose to those in the other states ideas that are limited exclusively to curtailing the power and authority of the federal government, ideas that currently enjoy broad support by Americans of both major political parties, both genders, all age groups, and people from all across the economic spectrum, ideas that Congress simply refuses to address.
Fortunately, the Founders wrote into the Constitution a little-known but very powerful method whereby We the People could propose these ideas for consideration by all, should there ever come a time when the Congress would fail in its responsibility to do so. That time has come.
Tom... I beg your indulgence. I'm posting this here because the "appropriate" category (State, National & World News) hasn't been used in over a month. You're a very popular guy! Besides, since all politics is local (who said that?), and this is surely about politics, here it is:
Thank you, Dawn... and thank the Convention of States Project for helping to open the eyes of millions of Americans to this gift from our Founders, an effective, peaceful and constitutionally entitled means for the people of this great nation to join together as states, independent of the legislative, judicial or executive branches of the federal government, and stop Washington's rampant abuse of power. Bravo!
A solution as big as the problem ==> http://www.conventionofstates.com/
So sorry to hear about your friends, Kim... our small business lost its coverage as well. They are saying that for every Obamacare enrollee with coverage, two others are left without. Worse yet, the president can stand before Congress and lie to the nation for an hour, and no one in any political party has the guts to call him on it. We've lost more than our insurance policies, Kim... much more... and it's time to set the wheels in motion to get it all back, with interest! Arizona has just become the 8th state to file an application for a Convention of States for approval by the legislature. This could be one of the most important events in modern political history... it's a solution as big as the problem ==> http://conventionofstates.com/
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