Robert Jones

Robert Jones 1 year, 11 months ago on You should be afraid, very afraid!!

"repeal the 17th ammendment and give power back to the states where it belongs."

Mr. Haapala and I are in total agreement on this one!!!

Except for the spelling of amendment :-)

This was (IMO) the biggest mistake made in the "altering" of our nation's Laws. Followed closely by the prohibition amendment, BUT that one was repealed!

This (the 17th) NEEDS the same fate!!

Jones

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Robert Jones 1 year, 11 months ago on ‘Well regulated’ are words in the Second Amendment

Mr. Hamric,

"Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals"."

Nope. Never read it. Most likely never will. I'd never heard of it before actually.

I'm not boycotting the book or anything just have so many other books to read that I know I'd prefer to spend the time on.

Like the many "historical" biographies and "accounts" of the settling of our country (particularly the West!) that are lined up waiting for my attention.

Honest historians are some of my most revered humans! Notice please, I did say honest, not all are!!! Many have an agenda that they just can't seem to keep out of their narratives!!

Jones

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Robert Jones 1 year, 11 months ago on Americans with no abilities act proposal Part 1

"This is satire from the humorous website The Onion and it was originally written on June 24, 1998."

Thank YOU Ms. Lewallen for clearing this up completely. Now that I know the source (The Onion of all places!!!) I understand it IS completely satire and intended to make fools of those that actually believe such nonsense!!! So, I'll ("get over myself" and) laugh along!!!

Funny bit. The fact that "some" didn't even recognize it as hogwash---or attempted to "USE" it to whip up misguided and ignorant fears says a ton about their judgment!!

the same judgment they use when formulating their political opinions and casting their Votes!!!

That is quite sad! And says plenty about the extremist right amongst us!!

The other sad thing is on many, many issues Mr. Evans and myself (and probably yourself) would likely agree on the Nation's troubling concerns.

Tactics like this post just damage the credibility of the entire "movement".

The other amusing and ironic fact is that The Onion (most readers and observers would claim) is a liberal leaning publication (at Least!)

I wonder, do you think Mr. Evans reads it?? Or does he just post spam from misguided right-wing extremists?

A laugh does us all good from time-to-time though. It's far healthier than advocating violence towards other political stripes repeatedly........

Jones

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Robert Jones 1 year, 11 months ago on Americans with no abilities act proposal Part 1

Evans,

Your attacks are just so ridiculous. Now even I am an "enlightened/progressive" LOL!

As there are some folks that actually KNOW me and some of my political views around, they are laughing their rear-ends off at your erroneous assumptions.

I still don't get the POINT! of misusing quotes. Or of advocating violence against all your "perceived" political enemies!!

However, throwing attacks back and forth at each other is just an enormous waste of time and energy so I'll cease replying to this "triggering" event.

Neither you, nor I, will be around to witness this "new world" you are so afraid of anyway. Unfortunately there will be many left behind who will just say "good riddance" to the both of us.

That, sir, is quite sad. We should have left a better legacy than scorn and rejection!! I'd bet we're BOTH wrong on plenty of things. I won't bother pointing out to you my "concern" (Now THAT IS sarcasm!!) that you don't want to be friends!!

Jones

PS. I don't own a "burka" or even know for sure what one is. However, I recognize a pile of dung when I see it and do my best not to lie down in it. A practice you ought to observe!

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Robert Jones 1 year, 11 months ago on Keep and bear arms

hear, hear Mr. Sims!!!

I do hope he/she has a sense of humor!!

And LOTS of patience with his human creations!!

Jones

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Robert Jones 1 year, 11 months ago on Keep and bear arms

Mr. Sims,

Thanks for attempting to help. I'm not even sure how to respond. Other than to let you know that I am still searching for truth and faith. I readily admit that I do have some faith. I have faith in gravity for instance.

My "issue" is the faith to believe in what is supposed to be unknown to us humans. We are NOT supposed to know God's ways, Gods methods, at least that's what I was taught.

It's this lack of the physical that I have difficulty with. I have the same lack of faith in other things spiritual (other than Christan belief that is) like magic for instance. I don't generally buy it. I expect its a trick, a ruse, designed to deceive my sense of reality.

Please don't jump me for referring to magic as spiritual. I'm fully aware that THAT spirituality does NOT come from God!!

The spiritual is just something I have NEVER been comfortable with. I like to see things, feel things, touch and smell things, then I can determine the authenticity of something for myself. Without having to depend on some "guru" of whatever stripe.

Real things, like a gun :-) I (even though some folks probably read my musings and think I'm some sort of wacko lefty) would not surrender my 2nd amendment right to some new "political" force, I don't care what you term them. Socialist/Progressives, whatever.

That's one of the problems with a forum and comment sections such as this. People read stuff and jump to huge conclusions. I'm a human. I have lots of conflicting and competing beliefs, like most of us I expect. IF we could all just slow down with our judgments of each other, and really listen to and understand what each of us are saying---before setting our minds about somebody who has voiced an opinion that is vastly different than our own, we could go a long way towards ending this devisiveness (sic) and hostility between us Americans!!!

It would then be so much harder for the rulers with an agenda to divide us and manipulate us into getting their way.

I commend you for engaging with someone you probably figured was a political opponent. It shows me where your motives lie. I'd bet we aren't really opponents at all. Probably just two concerned citizens worried about the future. If you have children and grandchildren (as I do) how could you not be concerned? So, thanks for the well meaning words of scripture. I accept the good intent they were offered with.

I wish you the best in your walk, as well. peace to you Sims!!

Jones

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Robert Jones 1 year, 11 months ago on Americans with no abilities act proposal Part 1

well good for you Mr. Hinshaw.

I still don't think using quotes that are not actually quotes at all is beyond misleading. Mr. Evans has made his attitude towards his political opposition quite apparent. Advocating violence is reprehensible as a tactic to silence political opposition. I take him at his word. YOU won't effect my judgment about such statements by making belittling comments towards me. I have no intention of "getting over" anything.

My opinion of Mr. Evans is my opinion. Nothing less, nothing more. IF Mr. Evans would clarify that this post is INDEED a joke than I'll lighten up and laugh along. Until then, I don't find it amusing to be "making up" statements of elected officials and putting said statements within quotation marks. It's essentially lying!

Good day to you Hinshaw.

Jones

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Robert Jones 1 year, 11 months ago on 119 Could this explain the holes in our southern border?

Mr. Lemon,

That Grey novel was titled "To the Last Man" and is VERY fictionalized. As with all Grey's "western" novels (He did write some non-westerns) it is a basic morality play about good triumphing evil and has a romance angle.

It should NOT be taken as a historical account of the "conflict" in Pleasant Valley sometimes referred to as the "Pleasant Valley War". That moniker is a bit misleading as well as the conflict was essentially a feud between two "clans" and their supporters.

The very best historical accounts of this event are:

Mr. Forrest's "Dark and Bloody Ground" and (I think) the absolute best is Don Dedera's "A Little War of Our Own"

Dedera even came up with some missing court documents (they had been misfiled/lost) of Yavapai County (This all occurred before Gila County was carved out of Yavapai)

Dedera's book is meticulously researched, draws no conclusions based on opinions (Dedera's or others) and is a GREAT read. Dedera (of course) was/is a professional journalist and former editor of Arizona Highways for a time. Used to live in Payson as well, although I believe he moved away within the last decade.

Jones

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Robert Jones 1 year, 11 months ago on Americans with no abilities act proposal Part 1

Mr. Evans,

I find this contemptible even IF it is intended as sarcasm.

If you can show me that this is an actual proposed law, I will join you wholeheartedly in your disgust for our present government. I'll even join the "tea-b**#$ers"!!!

However, if this is intended as a joke, your usage of quotation marks surrounding statements allegedly made by elected officials is WAY beyond the pale. As is your advocating violence against your political opposition, which you have done repeatedly on this site!! Have you no integrity at all. Make yourself clear!!! If this is a joke I'll laugh with you, if not (and Boxer etal, did NOT make those statements).............. shame on you!!

You have shown your stripes. They are obviously a mean spirit, and unusual disrespect of our OWN country and system.

Please clarify and INFORM me on this POI "act". If real, I will take back all my opposition to those of you wanting to use arms (even AK-47's) against those tanks when the feds send them in. You'll still be slaughtered, of course, but you will have died with HONOR!!

Jones

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Robert Jones 1 year, 11 months ago on Transition Town comes to Payson

Mr. Hamric,

"Willie's Roadhouse"
Ahhhhhh, more agreement. You apparently have good taste in music. :-)

Now you and I can both be attacked as (???) for having such questionable taste. LOL Have a pleasant weekend!!

Jones

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