Saturday October 3, 2015
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I hope Jim Antich reconsiders. I hike and mountain bike in that area, and while there is beautiful scenery all around, Fox Farm or Rim Ranch is an eyesore. Nobody else has stepped up to clean up the broken down buildings and trash, as far as I'm aware. Having his facility there is not going to impact the trails, which are on the other side of the wash. There is no reason his business and the trails and their users can't coexist.
Oh, and if the plan remains to have a "green campus" that would be the center of sustainability and green energy degree programs, those students are even LESS likely to want a car. You might want to think about improving bike lanes, though...
If anybody thinks there will be 6,000 students with 6,000 cars, then they're not very familiar with the next generation... Many don't want cars and would prefer using car-share or bike-share programs (NAU has the yellow bikes all over campus).
Pat, can't speak to all of your complaints, but I can tell you that you might want to get a new clock if you think the fireworks started at 9:20. I was sitting in the park with my wife and my brother's family, and the first one went up at 9 p.m. sharp. It was over by 9:30, so I don't think they fired all of those in 10 minutes. The place was packed with people, but I didn't witness any problems and the bus-shuttle setup was great as usual.
Pat, the other C was Citrus. And Superior and Miami never have been ghost towns. Like most of the other towns in that area, they are about half the size they were in the early late 1970s, early 1980s.
As for where Valerie lives, it doesn't make much difference. Members of the San Carlos Apache have been conducting coming-of-age and other spiritual ceremonies there for even more years than you've been around. That's one of the reasons Dwight D. Eisenhower designated that land off limits to mining in 1955.
The number of jobs the mine will produce, the amount of water it will use, its potential production, the impact of the block-cave mining method that will be used and the impact of tailings that will be left behind are all subject to debate.
Many people in the area simply want jobs, and that cannot be overlooked. They're miners and this is an opportunity to work in the industry that is in their blood.
That being said, even some former miners have questioned how the land exchange took place. After multiple failed attempts to get it through Congress, it was attached under the radar to a must-pass defense bill as Valerie mentioned.
That has brought more attention to the issue, and most of it is not good attention.
Opponents will tell you that the British-Australian companies Rio Tinto and BHP Billiton, will be taking both the commodity and the profit overseas over the projected 40 years or so of the mine's life. If we want the copper, we'll be buying it from them.
Meanwhile, we get about 4,000 jobs (at the peak of construction, dropping to 1,200 or so when the mine is actually in operation according to Resolution's published plan), a tailings pile near the Boyce Thompson Arboretum and the Arizona Trail, and a two-mile-wide crater at Oak Flat, an area Eisenhower once considered important and beautiful enough to protect.
Would you make that deal?
Gives new meaning to "fill 'er up" at the local gas station.
Forbes recently listed its top 25 places to retire in the United States. It is no coincidence that 13 of them are college towns. Just because Payson has "survived a long time without a university" does not mean that is the best thing for the town's future. I'm assuming it survived once upon a time without indoor plumbing, too. But I'll defer to Pat on that.
I'm with you Roy.
For almost five years I've been going out Granite Dells road to the Fox Farm area on a regular basis. I've often wondered why nobody has put that land to use. Now a private enterprise wants to make purchase of private land for a development which requires annexation in order to provide needed services. The land has been sitting empty. Now somebody wants to utilize it to expand a business that will provide more jobs for a town that, frankly, needs every single one it can create. Those who are employed and the manufacturer will contribute to the town's tax base. To make it simple: Jobs are good. Increased tax revenues are good. Working with businesses to help them grow is good. Enough with the juvenile conspiracy theories.
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