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Bernice, at that very last PSWID meeting, the board voted and signed off on the "go-ahead" for the Master Plan. There is a recording of the meeting. I believe that it will still go forward without the board, especially since the company handling the Master Plan is the same company that manages the PSWID water district. Supervision will have to be done by the Gila Country BOS.
Thank you, Tom for posting the actual statutes and you interpretation. I think I have a better understanding of them.
Just a note, a discussion on a blog is not an argument. Opinions, ideas and facts are shared and responses/comments are given and that is what makes blogs interesting. I was sharing my understanding of the statutes and what Tommie Martin told me at the last meeting. It was not an attempt to invite any arguments.
We have read the statutes. However, if the Gila County BOS board member, Tommie Martin denies that they have the power to appoint, what do you suggest?
Just attended the Gila County Board of Supervisors Meeting today. According to Tommie Cline Martin, the BOS CANNOT APPOINT anyone to sit on the PSWID board. However, the Arizona Statutes seem to state that the BOS can appoint people. I think we need to find a lawyer who is willing to help.
There's always an opinion and/or spin on "the truth" or "the facts" and that's the challenge. It's the same as Democrats and Republicans. Both sides can look at the same challenge and interpret it into completely different truths.
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Here are those links, Pam:
Pine water doubles taxes, boosts water rate 33%
by Pete Aleshire
P-S will start drilling for water near Milk Ranch Well
by Max Foster
Milk Ranch Well purchase gets final approval
by Max Foster
Five Pine-Strawberry board members resign
by Pete Aleshire
Milk Ranch Well needs filter after all
by Max Foster
Tom, there is very little content about meters in this article. What prompted you to suggest reading this particular one?
Pat, I totally agree with you that after paying high fees for these water meters, they should become homeowners' property. However, as painful and unfair as it may seem, the meters belong to the water company. My understanding is that we are supposedly paying for the installation, service and privilege of having and using the water meter on our property. As a property owner, we are responsible for the remainder of the pipework from the meter to our home as well as ensuring that it is protected from damage and accessible for reading.
Bernice, from what I understand, the plastic meters will last 10-15 yrs as is the same with the other meters. The cost of the plastic meters wasn't even one of the considerations - this answer was given from CH2MHill when asked why we didn't consider plastic meters. Again, if plastic meters had been chosen, the cost savings would have been approx. $30,000. In reference to the meter connections, the new meter needs to connect to existing pipe connections on the customers property. Again, from what I understand, should be adjusted on the customer pipe side - not by altering the new meter which nullifies the warrantee. Since it has been painfully discovered that the water lines can be multiple sizes, this would be the reason for one-size-DOESN'T-fit-all problem. When installing the meters to a pipe that doesn't fit the options are 1. to fit the pipe to the new meter or 2. fit the meter to the pipe. It takes less time to fit the new meter to the pipe. You can make the deductions from there. Some members of PSWID had been promising the new meter installation to be completed by the end of this year. This information has been received from the actual CH2MHill (PSWID management company) hired help doing the installations. Also, some of the parts of the new meters discarded also have been obtained from the actual workers. The workers did not take it on themselves to make these decisions - they were directed to do so. As well, the information about the recycling was obtained from workers who were told to just keep the old meter after the new meter installation and that it's just part of their work. The monies from recycling the metals from the old meters could be significant to add back to the PSWID funds.
Thanks for the details, Pam. As you said, PSWID was determined to fix the leaks that affected the PSWID revenue and that the leakage was the reason for the installation of the new meters. I hope CH2MHill is as determined to fix the leaks their workers caused with the faulty installation. It's the PSWID CUSTOMERS who are now paying for the leaks per the report. A big savings to the community would have been through the PSWID consideration of high grade plastic meters saving the community over $30,000. The proposed meter recycling project doesn't seem to be supervised very closely when workers are taking home old meters and giving them away. Through recycling of these old meters there would be thousands of dollars to at least help replenish the budget.
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