K. Lewallen; Perhaps I am not reading your post correctly, but it looks like an agreement that has nothing to do with the golf course area. It could involve the proposed college site.
Tom, It seems that we ought to recall that " dumb is not a crime". Of course the passengers had freedom of choice and therefor contributed to the circumstances that may have caused them injury, but the written statutes do not hold that to be a crime. DUI is an applicable crime. Speaking from an ethical point, all who participated in the ride while being aware of the driver's consumption of alcohol and those who did not wear a seatbelt while riding are morally responsible for whatever may have happened to themselves (excepting the juvenile). Those who thought it was a good idea to ride under the circumstances described in the Roundup have an additional burden : the kind of decision that they made.
Don, I agree. I know that the Roundup reported that water depth in wells was higher than last year, but that does not adress the topics of : 1. Should Payson be selling water or saving water?, and, 2. What are the contractual stipulations surrounding the case of selling water (amount, price/gallon, length of time, and so on). Mr. Walker is known for being non-friendly and information restrictive and will likely not disclose much unless pressure comes from Town Council. To visit another aspect : If Payson does not sell water to be used at Mesa Del, where will they acquire water ? Are we just enabling Brooke to continue doing as little as possible to arrive at a long-term solution to the water shortage?
It may be a matter of speed under the conditions and the condition of the driver (toxicology). The former is difficult to verify except through witness testimony or skid mark analysis. The later is fairly cut-and-dry. Normally I would guess that the driver would be found faultless.
Tom; I agree with you, as you would guess from past posts. . The value patterns of Americans have changed. Not for the better. Step back and look at the change in morals starting in the 60s. I will not enumerate the changes; we lived it. "Do your own thing", grew appendages such as , "I can do what I like so long as I don't get caught". Another is:"I'll do what I like and make excuses if I'm caught because the fools will buy into it". I could go on but I do not think that it is necessary for most readers on this site. To answer your last question : Yes, it is many of the people if not the majority.
Over a long period I read the remarks on the Blog and in the Roundup. There were many defenders of the Obama Administration and its actions. Those who obviously were of a conservative bent were refuted and remarks were often made regarding G. Bush's Administration. Forward to today : the IRS has been discriminating against Tea Party applications for Tax Free status and the leader was notified over a year ago that this was happening. Libya: the Administration clearly altered "Talking Points", although we still do not know who did so. The A.P.: The Associated Press announced that the Justice Department had taken telephone records from AP ; even some from private telephones. The IRS has admitted that the descrimination took place. The Justice Department has not owned up. The Administration, and specifically Obama/Clinton, have not declared who is responsible for the Talking Points alterations. Now, Democrats, lets look at remarks made about G. Bush and the Bush Administration responses to questions of ethics. Ole' George is looking better and better, isn't he! Politics is politics and neither party is saintly, but Bush is gone and Obama's people are seemingly out of hand. Is it not high time that we citizens forget the rhetoric and the obfuscation? Should we not demand quality, morality and intellect in public servants, no matter what the Party? Is it not time to awaken and realize that the US has a problem with values? Why are so many of us reticent or unable to stake a moral position? Really people, it is not that difficult to say, "That is wrong.", or ,"That is right.".
Tom: Ashland, Oregon, is at the foot of the Siskiyou Mountains along the Cal.-Oregon border. It is used as an area for winter/ summer sports and contributes to the economy. Mr. Dempsy appears to be a case illustrative of some old adages about acquiring the traits of those with whom you associate. You know, "If you lay with dogs you are bound to pick up fleas", etc. It is shades of the ecoterrorist acts and should be treated accordingly. As aside, how would you like to find that your child was being treated by this fellow?
Kim, Pardon me for not responding sooner. I think that your remarks are well considered and well written. Most certainly I agree with your thoughts on negativism, haters, and racists. I am awed by the singularly inappropriate and inaccurate remarks by Mr. Paulk. I also know Mr. Evans and would never describe him in the terms used. Mr. Evans has a wealth of experiences that allow him to see events from an aspect somewhat different than mine. So what ! Especially when done without personal denigration, is that not part of what I understand to be freedom of speech? As regards Mr. Rappaport : by using town letterhead when dealing with personal opinion he ventured into the territory of a lot of people nowadays. Bad judgment. Aditionally, he does not recognize his error.
Ater thinking about the topic for several days : why is Ms. Van Zile not assigned at least in part to the Middle School ? It is RCMS that has had such poor state ratings. Yes, I know that she is a high school person who has familiarity with the curriculum, teaching methods, personnel, etc. Even so, if the public is to receive the greatest return for money invested....
Ater thinking about the topic for several days : why is Ms. Van Zile not assigned at least in part to the Middle School ? It is RCMS that has had such poor state ratings. Yes, I know that she is a high school person who has familiarity with the curriculum, teaching methods, personnel, etc. Even so, if the public is to receive the greatest reurn for money invested....
John Lemon 1 week, 5 days ago on Resolution to Sell Payson Water to Chaparral Pines Golfcourse
Resolution to Sell Payson Water to Chaparral Pines Golfcourse
K. Lewallen; Perhaps I am not reading your post correctly, but it looks like an agreement that has nothing to do with the golf course area. It could involve the proposed college site.
John Lemon 2 weeks, 1 day ago on 259 What determines if a crime was committed?
259 What determines if a crime was committed?
Tom, It seems that we ought to recall that " dumb is not a crime". Of course the passengers had freedom of choice and therefor contributed to the circumstances that may have caused them injury, but the written statutes do not hold that to be a crime. DUI is an applicable crime. Speaking from an ethical point, all who participated in the ride while being aware of the driver's consumption of alcohol and those who did not wear a seatbelt while riding are morally responsible for whatever may have happened to themselves (excepting the juvenile). Those who thought it was a good idea to ride under the circumstances described in the Roundup have an additional burden : the kind of decision that they made.
John Lemon 2 weeks, 2 days ago on Roundup, Investigate and Report Payson Water Sale to Brooke Utility
Roundup, Investigate and Report Payson Water Sale to Brooke Utility
Don, I agree. I know that the Roundup reported that water depth in wells was higher than last year, but that does not adress the topics of : 1. Should Payson be selling water or saving water?, and, 2. What are the contractual stipulations surrounding the case of selling water (amount, price/gallon, length of time, and so on). Mr. Walker is known for being non-friendly and information restrictive and will likely not disclose much unless pressure comes from Town Council. To visit another aspect : If Payson does not sell water to be used at Mesa Del, where will they acquire water ? Are we just enabling Brooke to continue doing as little as possible to arrive at a long-term solution to the water shortage?
John Lemon 3 weeks, 3 days ago on 237 Got a legal question for you.
237 Got a legal question for you.
It may be a matter of speed under the conditions and the condition of the driver (toxicology). The former is difficult to verify except through witness testimony or skid mark analysis. The later is fairly cut-and-dry. Normally I would guess that the driver would be found faultless.
John Lemon 3 weeks, 5 days ago on 248 For once I agree with Congress.
248 For once I agree with Congress.
Tom; I agree with you, as you would guess from past posts. . The value patterns of Americans have changed. Not for the better. Step back and look at the change in morals starting in the 60s. I will not enumerate the changes; we lived it. "Do your own thing", grew appendages such as , "I can do what I like so long as I don't get caught". Another is:"I'll do what I like and make excuses if I'm caught because the fools will buy into it". I could go on but I do not think that it is necessary for most readers on this site. To answer your last question : Yes, it is many of the people if not the majority.
John Lemon 1 month ago on Where Are the Democrats Now ?
Where Are the Democrats Now ?
Over a long period I read the remarks on the Blog and in the Roundup. There were many defenders of the Obama Administration and its actions. Those who obviously were of a conservative bent were refuted and remarks were often made regarding G. Bush's Administration. Forward to today : the IRS has been discriminating against Tea Party applications for Tax Free status and the leader was notified over a year ago that this was happening. Libya: the Administration clearly altered "Talking Points", although we still do not know who did so. The A.P.: The Associated Press announced that the Justice Department had taken telephone records from AP ; even some from private telephones. The IRS has admitted that the descrimination took place. The Justice Department has not owned up. The Administration, and specifically Obama/Clinton, have not declared who is responsible for the Talking Points alterations. Now, Democrats, lets look at remarks made about G. Bush and the Bush Administration responses to questions of ethics. Ole' George is looking better and better, isn't he! Politics is politics and neither party is saintly, but Bush is gone and Obama's people are seemingly out of hand. Is it not high time that we citizens forget the rhetoric and the obfuscation? Should we not demand quality, morality and intellect in public servants, no matter what the Party? Is it not time to awaken and realize that the US has a problem with values? Why are so many of us reticent or unable to stake a moral position? Really people, it is not that difficult to say, "That is wrong.", or ,"That is right.".
John Lemon 1 month, 1 week ago on 223 Does this seem a bit out of character?
223 Does this seem a bit out of character?
Tom: Ashland, Oregon, is at the foot of the Siskiyou Mountains along the Cal.-Oregon border. It is used as an area for winter/ summer sports and contributes to the economy. Mr. Dempsy appears to be a case illustrative of some old adages about acquiring the traits of those with whom you associate. You know, "If you lay with dogs you are bound to pick up fleas", etc. It is shades of the ecoterrorist acts and should be treated accordingly. As aside, how would you like to find that your child was being treated by this fellow?
John Lemon 1 month, 1 week ago on Bill Rappaport expounds on resignation
Bill Rappaport expounds on resignation
Kim, Pardon me for not responding sooner. I think that your remarks are well considered and well written. Most certainly I agree with your thoughts on negativism, haters, and racists. I am awed by the singularly inappropriate and inaccurate remarks by Mr. Paulk. I also know Mr. Evans and would never describe him in the terms used. Mr. Evans has a wealth of experiences that allow him to see events from an aspect somewhat different than mine. So what ! Especially when done without personal denigration, is that not part of what I understand to be freedom of speech? As regards Mr. Rappaport : by using town letterhead when dealing with personal opinion he ventured into the territory of a lot of people nowadays. Bad judgment. Aditionally, he does not recognize his error.
John Lemon 1 month, 1 week ago on Principal Van Zile - Demotion or Scam?
Principal Van Zile - Demotion or Scam?
Ater thinking about the topic for several days : why is Ms. Van Zile not assigned at least in part to the Middle School ? It is RCMS that has had such poor state ratings. Yes, I know that she is a high school person who has familiarity with the curriculum, teaching methods, personnel, etc. Even so, if the public is to receive the greatest return for money invested....
John Lemon 1 month, 1 week ago on Principal Van Zile - Demotion or Scam?
Principal Van Zile - Demotion or Scam?
Ater thinking about the topic for several days : why is Ms. Van Zile not assigned at least in part to the Middle School ? It is RCMS that has had such poor state ratings. Yes, I know that she is a high school person who has familiarity with the curriculum, teaching methods, personnel, etc. Even so, if the public is to receive the greatest reurn for money invested....