Payson Roundup

patrandall (Pat Randall) says…

Shannon,
I don't own a dog. A hairy little four legged person owns me. She is my nurse and protector.
When my blood pressure goes up she jumps in my lap, puts one paw on my heart and the other paw on my pacemaker. Stays there until I say OK Tilly. She has never been wrong. She was not trained to do it.
She has done it at night when I am asleep. She slaps me with her paw to wake me. One night my BP was 178 over 101. She is never three ft. from me. As soon as I get my BP machine she lays down and doesn't move a muscle untill I take it off my arm.
She does not bite, but will not let anyone touch her but me. She will bark and hide if someone tries to pet her. She does not have anything to do with other dogs as she doesn't beleive she is one. She is a minature schnauzer.

patrandall (Pat Randall) says…

Absolutely not.
You have to have owned a bar and know the liquor laws that are in effect at the time. There was never a drunk driver picked up after leaving our bar. Very proud of that. We even drove some people home that stopped in for a drink and the bartender knew they shouldn't have one so we took them home. It was not our responsibility as we hadn't served them but we wanted them home safe.

The woman had to know it was against the law to give minors alcohol and knew they were not going to spend the night in a nice warm bed at her house. One of them was going to drive somewhere. Every time she gave one of those 17 kids a drink she broke the law again.

patrandall (Pat Randall) says…

Fred,
All the practice and conditioning they do is work. But not worth the money they are paid and now they are crying because they have a medical condition. Well there are hazards in almost any job.
Some more than others but most everyone has a choice of what work they do.

patrandall (Pat Randall) says…

Amen.

patrandall (Pat Randall) says…

There was a law that the last bartender was responsible for what ever happened to the drunk after they left the last bar. If someone came in and looked like they had drank enough already you didn't serve them as you would be held responsible for what they did after they left.
This woman was breaking the law when she served the kids beer to begin with. She served the driver who had already been drinking and nothing will bring the 3 victims back. A civil court will probably cost the state double as I would bet she will cry poverty and the state will have to furnish her an attorney besides paying a prosecutor.
Dan, do you really think she isn't guilty of killing 3 teenagers? In your example above you said if one person had a gun and killed someone, the two with him were guilty of murder too.
She furnished the last drinks. Right?

patrandall (Pat Randall) says…

How about all the prescription drugs that are handed out every day?
Given for health problems that they were not made for but some dr. decided to try it.
My husband may still be alive if 4 drs. had read the precautions on the drugs they gave him.
He was walking at least a mile a day and a Dr. at St. Lukes gave him one pill and he never took another step. He had walked into the hospital up a ramp. That is just one example. They should have to explain the drug and why they are giving it and what may happen.
Yes there are some good drugs but very bad Drs.
Go after them and the pharmaceutical companies.

patrandall (Pat Randall) says…

She should have been charged with the death of the boys in the first trial.

patrandall (Pat Randall) says…

No, if they wanted it they should have had it in thier contracts to begin with.
They make enough money to buy thier own insurance. I think they are smart enough to know they may get hurt and end thier career. They know they can be injured for life every day they put on thier uniform and go out on a grassy field and bang heads together. If they aren't that smart they shouldn't be there.

patrandall (Pat Randall) says…

David,
Let's not always blame the parent. How about letting the parent dicipline thier kids instead of the law and CPS sticking thier noses in when a child is not being abused by a spanking.
A beating yes. but I have never seen a kid abused by a spanking. I spanked mine, and if at that time the laws are like they are now, I would probably be in jail. There are ways besides spanking to get thier attention, take things away from them, keep them home from after school activities, take away thier allowance for awhile. Make them do extra work at home.
If I told my kids not to do something and they did it they knew they were going to be punished. One way or another.
Not sent to thier room like they do now, where they have a TV, computer and cell phone to call thier friends.
I have sat and listened to one of my granddaughters tell her child to do something and then start counting. No counting! If they don't do it in a reasonable amout of time a swat across the rear will get thier attention.

patrandall (Pat Randall) says…

Rex,
You are the second person I have heard that from in the last week. My mother did the same thing. My cousin and I were talking about it a few days ago. Kerosene was also used for coughs and colds.
I had a big red scorpion on my pillow the other other night but he didn't live to tell about it.
My dad used kerosene for everthing. He cut his cheek open when a barb wire got loose, splashed kerosene on it pulled it together with a little tape and never had a scar. Lived to almost 95.
I sometimes think the old cures were the best cures.
Yes we were all raised in Ariz,