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PSWID April 16, 2009 - Prior to acquisition of the Pine Strawberry Water Companies by PSWID.
Comment: Mr. Harry Jones Interim District Manager for PSWID previously discussed application to WIFA for waste water feasibility study.
7) Call to the public for non agenda items.
"Sam Schwalm question related to WIFA for waste water feasibility study."
PSWID minutes May 12, 2009.
"5) Officer Reports
Bill Haney addressed Sam Schwalm's question from last Board Meeting regarding application for funds to study waste water. Bill explained that no one on the Board needs Board approval to apply for grants or "free money". A Board vote would be required to accept a grant or funding, however. The second question suggested it was not appropriate for the Board to study sanitary sewer issues. Bill pointed out that , although there were no current plans, the Water Improvement District could be converted to include Waste Water Management in the future. He suggested that a study of waste water was in fact an appropriate action of the Board. There is a direct connection between septic system discharges and ground water pumping. Our communities depend entirely on septic systems, and as a result ground water quality and purity are a concern of the Board. He also indicated that at sometime in the future waste water collection could provide an alternate source of water for irrigation or similar use."
My comment: Can you imagine just how much money replacing and enlarging the entire water infrastructure, installing fire hydrants, eliminating septic systems and building and operating a Waste Water Plant would have cost those of us living within the PSWID boundaries? I have never heard this newly elected board discuss converting to Waste Water Management but we need to be on our guard for any grandiose ideas with future boards. Being a small community the same movers and shakers with expensive self serving goals never really go away. You only have to look at past events as to if our money was wisely spent or did a lot of it benefit just the "important people"
Septic tanks etc in Pine and Strawberry. " I got your point, which is exactly why I wanted to tell people how rare it is that a municipal system is ever needed."
It has already been put out there! ....
HDJ Management, LLC. Harry D. Jones engaged by Gila County as a water issues consultant in Northern Gila County.
Document submitted by Harry Jones to the Arizona Corporation Commission dated December 6, 2005. Docket: Pine Water Company.
Taken from Additional long term alternatives. Direct Recovery of Wastewater.
"Rather than completely eliminating septic tanks, some communities with sewer districts or municipal plants are now connecting the septic systems to the sewage district collection lines, eliminating the leach lines that normally distribute the dissolved solids for percolation into the soil. Even better is the complete elimination of the septic tanks, especially on the many small lots that exist in Pine.
Because of the many small lots and the hilly landscape in Pine, 15-20 prepackaged moderate size neighborhood systems may need to be installed at a total cost of about $500,000 - $800,000 for every 100 homes, thereby re-capturing 20-25 million gallons of treated useable water that could be safely passively recharged into the upper aquifer."
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Source: Associated Press today
Now I'm going off track! Reminds me of when I was preparing for my US Citizenship Test.
Bearing in mind that there was no literature available in English from the Immigration Service as to what questions would be asked, I spent a lot of time tracking down the information.
I remember calling a local congress representative office and asking them one question that I was stuck on. I told them what I thought the answer was and was put on hold. After about three minutes they came back on the phone and said "we are not sure, but we took a vote and we think you are right!" End of story :-)
Pat that was a lovely thing to do for people in distress. Thank you for your kind actions
Growth should pay for growth - with no ifs, ands or buts.
You may recall that it was Strawberry who was self sufficient with their water supply and Pine was supplied by Strawberry in times of need. Today the reverse is true and pumping water uphill using the Magnolia Pipeline is expensive particularly when you consider the electricity costs. Water flowing downhill is always cheaper.
So we come to the Water Master Plan, the long awaited report was finally given to the PSWID board this month. They will be discussing and voting on it in the February meeting. During a board work meeting held in September to go over a draft version of the Plan it became obvious that water loss is an issue. As you can imagine the board wanted specific information including future water demand at build out and so on.
The topics covered are numerous and the plan consists of 127 pages but nowhere does the report suggest further investments in wells in the Pine area. Rather it is Strawberry who would benefit the most from any additional wells and it would cut down on the cost of pumping water uphill. In addition there are no recommendations to invest in shallow wells which are known to be unreliable and prone to going dry.
For your information the last version of the Water Master Plan can be reviewed on the PSWID web site http:// www.pswid.org. You can find the link on the main page.
Given the history of expensive special deals and suspect agreements entered into previously with developers/realtors and the confirmation that their wells were indeed problematic I would presume that the newly elected board would tread very carefully before going down that same road.
Due diligence is not lip service with this board and I trust they will make the right decisions for all of us in the communities of Pine and Strawberry not just for the chosen few!
January 15, 2015 (Taken from PSWID board meeting minutes)
B. Water Enhancement Committee Report: Maher Hazine was nominated by Larry Bagshaw to be the new chairperson. Richard James seconded. The committee had no meeting in the past month. It will need to meet to consider the offer Mark Fumusa is making about the Solitude Trails new well drilling, and the purchase of two of his wells. There is also an offer Albert Hunt made to sell his Ponderosa Water Company to the district.
D. Information/Discussion/Action regarding the Solitude Trails new well drilling and storage capacity requested by Mark Fumusa. Mark reported that Solitude Trails is only using 10% of the water produced by his wells in Portals 3 and Brookview Terrace. The water travels through PSWID lines to the Solitude Trails subdivision. He says that PSWID could use 90% of the water. He is proposing that the district buy the two wells from him for $150,000.00 and cancel the water sharing agreement currently in place. He will be recoating the 100,000 galloon storage tank in Solitude Trails for a cost of $60,000, half paid by him and half by his 50 customers on the 78 lots in the subdivision. He would like to drill a deep well in Solitude Trails and install another storage tank. He is asking for PSWID to provide $250,000 to share in the $500,000 drilling costs in exchange for a new water sharing agreement. He had Mike Plough attend the meeting to verify that the new well had a good chance of hitting water within 1000 feet. Richard James asked for the depth of the current wells. The Portals 3 well is 500 feet deep, but the pump is set at 240 feet and produces 5 gpm. The Brookview Terrace well is about 260 feet deep with the pump at 240 feet and produces 30 gpm.
Tom Weeks thanked Mark for his presentation and said the Water Enhancement Committee would review the offer.
Comment: As mentioned PSWID is not needing to use all of the available water.
September 12, 2014 (Taken from PSWID Supplemental Water Sub-Committee minutes)
2. Mr. Fumusa spoke about the Solitude Trails well and that there was more water available from the well than the District is using. There was discussion that the well is turned on and off automatically as demand requires.
September 18, 2014. (Taken from the PSWID board meeting minutes)
G. Information/Discussion/Action regarding the availability of water from the Solitude Trails well owned by Mark Fumusa. Mr. Fumusa would like the district to use more of his water. His subdivision only uses 10% of the available water. Don Smith wanted to know what relationship Mark wanted. Mark wanted just the same as present. Brad mentioned that he will need to reestablish charging a “wheeling fee” for the services PSWID provides currently.
October 15, 2014. (Taken from PSWID Supplemental Water Sub-Committee minutes)
5. Discussed the addition of a wheeling fee for the water supplied to Solitude Trails.
Comment: As early as 2011 and again in March of 2012 Sam Schwalm made a statement this time in a letter to the Editor of the Payson Roundup. “4. PSWID held an option that would have transferred the Solitude Trails water district, along with a high production well, to PSWID at no cost. PSWID handed that option back to the developer of Solitude Trails, for no compensation, at the same time that the developer was lobbying PSWID to buy the water district for $500,000. At the same time PSWID unilaterally changed the water sharing agreement so that Solitude Trails receives free water, paid for by PSWID customers and taxpayers. This arrangement violates the PSWID Rules and Regulations that require pro-rata sharing of costs”
Comment: On all occasions the then PSWID board dismissed this information.
February 10, 2011 (Taken from PSWID Supplemental Water Committee Meeting minutes)
5) Old Business
Report from Solitude Trail’s Board about a purchase agreement and considerations and a possible meeting between PSWID and STDWID. Mark Fumusa was sick and could not make it. Solitude Trail board is meeting at the end of February to discuss the possibility of PSWID taking over their system.
August 21, 2014 (Taken from PSWID board meeting minutes)
K. Information/Discussion/Action regarding alternatives for the water sharing agreement with Mark Fumusa. We currently deliver water to the Solitude Trails development for free, but the district is paying for all the operations and maintenance costs. CH2M Hill has suggested we charge a ”wheeling fee” or buy Mark Fumusa’s two wells. Sam Schwalm said that there was supposed to be a wheeling fee already in place, but that it never was added to the agreement. Beckie Signeti reported that all the water sharing agreements were standardized after the district bought out Brook Utilities, and that the wheeling fee was removed. Brad Cole said that it shouldn’t be a standard agreement for Solitude Trails. Don and Rus asked about when the agreement renews. Beckie said they just renewed in July, so they are not up again until 2016. Pam Mason stated that the original agreement with Solitude Trails was that when the last lot sold, that their water system would revert to PSWID. Don Smith remarked that when the last lot sold, the former water board turned the system back to Solitude Trails. Tom and Rus said this should also be taken on by the Water Enhancement Committee. Brad Cole also remarked that Solitude Trails is now an official water utility and is subject to all the reporting required of water utilities
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